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  1. #11
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    Default Re: 'Cause I Eats My Spinach...

    FLy, I think you are referring to the Max Fleischer cartoons, I also have lots of them, but I haven't seen any with better than average quality. Mostly black and white, but a few in colour. Betty Boop ones, too, which were the forerunner of the modern music video. I have a great one featuring Cab Calloway doing "Minnie The Moocher" which is a must have. I think there is software available to capture streaming You Tube videos, which can then be converted to dvd, but don't tell anyone I told you..
    As for copyright, I imagine that the cartoons will be subject to different ownership than the drawings.
    Saludos,
    Bob.
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    Default Re: 'Cause I Eats My Spinach...

    yes - max fleischer - of course we love betty boop too

    especially my 4 year old daughter nike.

    the cab calloway clip is very cool. there's a nice one with louis armstrong too.

    you can get some betty and popeye at http://www.archive.org/search.php?query=popeye (a pd site for media)

    i'll try youtube too - thx

    FLy

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    Default Re: 'Cause I Eats My Spinach...

    My Popeye friend told me to tell you this:

    He should buy these and only these, completely restored and available for the first time EVER on Warner Home Video. This is the link to Vol 1 1933-1938 but Vols 2 and 3 have also been released covering the entire Max Fleischer black and white Popeye era up to 1943. The color Famous Studio Paramount Popeyes are still being restored but should be released this year.

    http://www.amazon.com/Popeye-Sailor-...0827654&sr=8-1

    [not sure if providing this link is allowed in TG...]
    -=Bob=-

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    Default Re: 'Cause I Eats My Spinach...

    hi - yes just seen it too - seems to be the best choice - but it's ntsc and some region code that i guess i cannot use here in germany - i don't know about region codes. they don't list it in amazon.de just in uk and us.

    shrug - so it's google +rapidshare or just wait for a drm-right release for me.

    i'm ready to buy :b

    bb,

    FLy



    Quote Originally Posted by -=Drifter=- View Post
    My Popeye friend told me to tell you this:

    He should buy these and only these, completely restored and available for the first time EVER on Warner Home Video. This is the link to Vol 1 1933-1938 but Vols 2 and 3 have also been released covering the entire Max Fleischer black and white Popeye era up to 1943. The color Famous Studio Paramount Popeyes are still being restored but should be released this year.

    http://www.amazon.com/Popeye-Sailor-...0827654&sr=8-1

    [not sure if providing this link is allowed in TG...]

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    Default Re: 'Cause I Eats My Spinach...

    Thanks for the link, Bob. No problem with providing it, I'm sure.
    Wish I'd known about this before my wishlist went out for Christmas and Birthday. I'll have to wait until the dollar falls through the floor again.
    Saludos,
    Bob.
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    Default Re: 'Cause I Eats My Spinach...

    Here is the times online Popeye article: http://entertainment.timesonline.co....cle5415854.ece

    From the article:

    The Popeye trademark, a separate entity to Segar's authorial copyright, is owned by King Features, a subsidiary of the Hearst Corporation — the US entertainment giant — which is expected to protect its brand aggressively.

    Mark Owen, an intellectual property specialist at the law firm Harbottle & Lewis, said: “The Segar drawings are out of copyright, so anyone could put those on T-shirts, posters and cards and create a thriving business. If you sold a Popeye toy or Popeye spinach can, you could be infringing the trademark.”


    What they are saying is that the original drawings are in public domain - the character of Popeye is not. The character is also a Trademark and as such, it never expires.

    Popeye is a yearly 1.5 billion dollar industry... All kinds of things will get contested in court when money of that magnitude is on the line.

    Still, businesses tapping in to these old drawings could make a lot of money.

    Happy New Year!

    Risto

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    Default Re: 'Cause I Eats My Spinach...

    Great job, Bob,
    Yer strong to the finish, cause you eats yer spinish.
    Happy New Year to you, too!

    Larry

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    Default Re: 'Cause I Eats My Spinach...

    Quote Originally Posted by Risto View Post
    If you sold a Popeye toy or Popeye spinach can, you could be infringing the trademark.”

    Risto
    Yep - thats what will eventually be tested in court - how far does a trade mark stretch? - I'm betting the EU and the US will have differing views
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