Xtreme 4 - another update

**ss-kalm** · 16 April 2008, 06:33 PM

Thank You Charles.

**timhines** · 16 April 2008, 07:41 PM

I don't wish to appear ungrateful, and much as I'm pleased to see the "Bounds of back object" option, I would rather see a "Bounds of last selected object" option.

**jnerf** · 16 April 2008, 09:53 PM

Hey guys I just installed the update, and the 4.0.0.4966
version is the pro version of Xtreme 4
might want to fix that, I had to uninstall the pro trial,
and re-downloaded the Xtreme 4, since i did not purchase the pro 4 version.

**jclements** · 16 April 2008, 11:38 PM

Alignment enhancements .... thank you, thank you, thank you.

Clipview, and now alignment, queue off of the BACK-MOST object. I always found this awkward v.s. using the front most (usually the easiest to select and is awkward especially for ClipView where you'd like to draw a shape over top of a view then clip to it).

Any reasons why the FRONT-MOST object couldn't be used instead?

Not sure how other xara users feel about it.

Regards, John

P.S. to Tim Hines, this has been requested before and that is my preference as well, but I've a feeling that would require a whole new block of code which would act as an "observer" (running in the background) in order to determine what objects are selected and when those objects are selected and that might be very difficult to integrate with the existing overall code and possibly cause a performance hit. I am guessing the new functionality is able to use the stacking and layer order which has been in Xara since day one.

**amoore** · 17 April 2008, 03:39 AM

Originally Posted by jclements

Any reasons why the FRONT-MOST object couldn't be used instead?

Not sure how other xara users feel about it.

Sorry, John. Front-most would not work for me at all. Sometimes the shape I need to align to may be in the middle of the stack, as it were, but Back-most is far more likely.

Allison

**jclements** · 17 April 2008, 03:46 AM

For you Allison, I'm willing to let you have your way :}

**amoore** · 17 April 2008, 02:33 PM

Oh, thank you, John. That is so generous of you.

**-=Drifter=-** · 17 April 2008, 02:42 PM

Thank you, Charles. I must say this - In 3.02 when clicking on LE there was quite a delay while it "loaded" but now there is almost no delay at all.

**timhines** · 17 April 2008, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by jclements

P.S. to Tim Hines, this has been requested before and that is my preference as well, but I've a feeling that would require a whole new block of code which would act as an "observer"

I would have thought it just needs a single flag to keep a track of the ID of the last selected object.

**PhilM** · 17 April 2008, 09:48 PM

It's better to make the align operation use the state of the document that the user can see and manipulate directly rather than use a hidden state which would have to be remembered both by the program and by the user in perfect synchronisation.

This is a general principle in Xtreme's UI design and is one of the reasons that Xtreme is easier to use than other programs.

Phil