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  1. #31
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    Default Re: Xara Xtreme verison 4

    Quote Originally Posted by RickX View Post
    yes, I am in the same boat. When I am calculating the price I am at $165 against that $108. I only wondering.. is this the last day we can upgrade to pro version 3?

    It would make more sense if the upgrade Xtreme-> Xtreme pro 4 was around $99.00..... now they have to ship 2 cd's, version 3 & 4 ...
    does not make sense...
    It's only a short term anomaly. As soon as V3 is discontinued, there'll be no choice of upgrade path and it'll be $165 every time.

    That's my unofficial non-Xara Ltd view of it.

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    I almost fainted. Xara has underlined text. Good grief!

    Top job!

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    Default Re: Xara Xtreme verison 4

    - repel text is good
    - enhancements to the selection tool good
    - zoom tool fix good
    - bringing shortcut manager, font management and xpe features into the program UI is good
    - new filters look promising, and dual core support welcome

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    Wow, or for our german readers, Boah ejj.
    I am positively impressed. 3D extrusion alone would be a reason to upgrade for me.
    So far I am happy, although psd import doesnt seem to have been improved and layer names with Umlauts are still garbled.
    Performance for example on rendering while changing perspective of an extruded block containing several live effects is impressive. All 4 cores have to work hard, but I have realtime adjustment of the graphic.

    Good work, I am having fun and playing (instead of working =))

    Juergen

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    Default Re: Xara Xtreme verison 4

    Improved, more accurate path clipping
    Hooray!

    You can add swanky font menus and text-repel you like, but the above is the reason I upgraded!

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    Default Re: Xara Xtreme verison 4

    Quote Originally Posted by BobInce View Post
    Hooray!

    You can add swanky font menus and text-repel you like, but the above is the reason I upgraded!
    Yea, this will make a lot of people very happy. Me included

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    So that's that, then.

    Xara, as a vector editing application is dead.

    What exists now is a messy bloatware of photo and DTP mish-mash.

    Good thing InkScape is on the move and there's a few new object based editors on OS X I haven't tried out yet...
    Art should tell a story. Don't paint a moment, paint a lifetime.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Charles Moir View Post
    [*]Improved, more accurate path clipping
    Crap, I missed that one!

    Is it possible to get this feature without the bloat?

    Will there be a Xara 4 Pro LITE or something?

    Again, Xara may be able to take on Illustrator, but trying to go after InDesign and Photoshop (and, what? SketchUp and Maya now with the 3D too?) as the same time is simply stupid! "You can't satisfy everybody" goes the saying, but isn't that exactly what they're trying to do?
    Art should tell a story. Don't paint a moment, paint a lifetime.

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    Default Re: Xara Xtreme verison 4

    Quote Originally Posted by eobet View Post
    Crap, I missed that one!

    Is it possible to get this feature without the bloat?

    Will there be a Xara 4 Pro LITE or something?

    Again, Xara may be able to take on Illustrator, but trying to go after InDesign and Photoshop (and, what? SketchUp and Maya now with the 3D too?) as the same time is simply stupid! "You can't satisfy everybody" goes the saying, but isn't that exactly what they're trying to do?
    Xara sits in a difficult place. It's ease of use is favoured by professionals and hobbyists alike. It's missing some features that professionals want and it's had a patchy ride in terms of interoperability with it's established professional rivals (mainly due to import export issues). The non-professionals are particularly price sensitive and happy to have as much 'bang for the buck' as possible via the 'one stop shop'. Now being owned by Magix, the product seems to be embracing the middle ground and still pushing forward features for professional users.

    I think the product still has the great features we all love - speed and ease of use in an uncluttered interface. The bloat (as you call it) can easily be ignored.

    I suspect (though I don't know) that the enhancements in the middle ground have been as important to Xtreme sales as the more professional features, so in that sense the 'bloat' is helping to finance development of more professional features too.

    The DTP, photo editing and web page features that have been incorporated into Xtreme are not a sign that Xara is attempting to make inroads on the inDesign/Photoshop/Dreamweaver markets - it's simply a recognition that the middle ground of Xtreme users has a need for such features at a fairly basic level. The 3D features come from Xara 3D and while I may never use them, plenty do. The 3D is hardly attempting to be in competition to full-blown 3D software.

    None of us are imagining that Xtreme is really competing directly with Adobe (except as a vector package), but even those (professionals especially) with access to lots of Adobe software will still use Xtreme as a quick filler for jobs that might otherwise have been done with Adobes larger offerings, but which are now easily within Xtremes grasp.

    Xtreme is now fitting into a working pipeline better than ever.

    Comparing the development effort we have seen in very recent times compared to what we saw previously, I can only say that the strategy must be paying off. While none of us are going to use every feature of Xtreme, just looking at the forums on talkgraphics we can see that the new features and bug fixes are getting a very welcome reception. Development is getting better and faster.

    Good job Charles & Co (but where are those nested layers?).

    Paul
    Last edited by pauland; 29 March 2008 at 09:38 AM.

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