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  1. #41
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    Default Re: Drawing Rosette Patterns

    Very Sweet Looking Feab!

    You can post larger images here... Most folks try to keep images 600 pixels across or smaller... I would love to see a larger pic of that plate. Unless it looks best as a thumbnail....
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  2. #42
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    Default Re: Drawing Rosette Patterns

    Ok, here it is larger and I have also posted my lamp that is made of
    4 inch cubes with a different rosette on each side of every block.
    (12 different rosettes)
    I really want to learn to draw these for myself but my program still will not
    get the correct angles for me. Maybe when the cd comes and I reinstall that will be corrected. I need to know how to cut and delete parts that I do not want in a design... for instance if I need part of a circle but not all of it and want to get rid of the extra...
    I sure have a lot to learn.....
    faeb
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  3. #43
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    Default Re: Drawing Rosette Patterns

    Quote Originally Posted by faeb View Post
    my program still will not
    get the correct angles for me. ....I need to know how to cut and delete parts that I do not want in a design... for instance if I need part of a circle but not all of it and want to get rid of the extra...
    I sure have a lot to learn.....
    faeb
    Beautiful carvings.

    I think you'll find that rounding errors and problems with line thickness will keep you from achieving angular perfection by entering numbers. Once again, I'll try to sell you on the idea of constructing the geometry, as in my post, #31 -- it's the way that designers did it centuries ago, just as carvers used knives centuries ago.

    As for arcs (part of a circle), it's not fun producing an arc of perfect length (an arc of a specific number of degrees in relation to the origin of the circle), but it can be done. I don't do it, I eyeball my arcs, so others can show how.

    Meanwhile, developing an arc (in general) involves:
    1. Draw a circle and convert it to an editable shape
    2. Using the Shape Editor tool, create points on the circumference that mark where you want the arc to begin and end.
    3. Select those points, then click on "Break at points" icon or right-click and selecting "break at points"
    4. Select the waste arc (the part of the circle you don't want) with the Selector Tool, and hit Delete.
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  4. #44
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    Default Re: Drawing Rosette Patterns

    Don't forget the quick shape tool when doing these - it can produce some really effective shapes.

    Christine
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  5. #45
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    Default Re: Drawing Rosette Patterns

    Even with a faster supercomputer and the most expensive design software you will not get mathematical perfection. Xara will get you close enough to perfection so the error will not be visible... Zooming in to X 25K will do that. Most of the error comes from trying to draw a circle in a square enviorment (Monitor).

    I would suggest learning how to use the guidelines a bit more. It is much easier to get the angles where you want them with a guideline or two... I created a protractor type of template for your rosettes going down to 11.25 degrees between guidelines. You can divide it down to seconds if you want, it just make it kinda hard to see...
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    Smile Re: Drawing Rosette Patterns

    Thanks to everyone for all the help. I did not know there was more posted
    until just now and I was delighted to see more. I just got my program on
    CD and now have it installed so hopefully that will make things better.
    I love the rosettes christine drew. Now I must learn to do those. I will
    keep the protractor file and make it a template and that should help a bunch.
    It was good to learn how to break at a point too. I needed that lesson.
    I have so much to learn so will just have to keep at it for some time.
    This does appear to be a great program.
    Again thanks a bunch for all the wonderful help. I know now where to go
    when I get stumped.
    Faye B

 

 

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