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and it's not just when creating bitmaps - if you are syncing vectors for colouring fills then an outline that increases the size is awkward [and so is not being able to fill unclosed...

we try to be helpful :) no problem

yes the duplication can be set to 0 or other +/- values in options at bottom right of general tab - often useful if you just want one axis at 0 for using duplication to make rows and columns

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no, you're right Steve - I think I must have been having a bad thread day.... hey ho

my only excuse [and it's a poor one] is that contour width defaults to 'page' units and not 'font' units, but...

Bill - you owe me royalties :p:D

ok - the contour method would do it, but that is not defined in point size

attached is an example of BIll's suggestion

ungroup and seperate - you will see:

top text line object...

did I say behind - oops :eek:

well I meant in front of course :o

Bill's way is the way I'd do it I think

[I must look at that video again - I must have been asleep:rolleyes:]

I just looked at a video on corel behind fill - it looks to me like that is simply what xara does anyway, I'm not convinced there is any need to use another tool - but it depends what the requirement...

not sure what the corelraw function is..

in xara the outline is always half behind and half outside the fill

so can you clarify exactly what you are after - thanks