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cheers steve fixes my peeve anyhow - I'd like to think I'd have got round to that eventually.... :o

so why the heck is the CD version so unhelpful? [not that i am expecting you to necessarily know...

opening the manual in adobe reader I cannot use find, and 'text' appears not to be selectable - I don't know why this is but it's a pita and may havre something to do with your ipad problem.. maybe...