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Hi guys, looking for a bit of help with a navbar, its 5 buttons wide and the first button is the "home" (index.htm) - it all works fine in the previews apart from all the other buttons are highlighted to show the page your on when browsing the page, the only one that doesn't is the Home button that stays the same colour, i'm sure it was working previously, it navigates fine just doesnt show solid when your on the the page like the others do.
can post web file if needed!
ray
Hi Ray
Since there are only five buttons, it might make more sense to edit one button and recreate your navigation bar.
You say that all but the home button are working fine, so try this. Double click on the nav bar to open the Navigation Bar Properties menu. In the lower left click, Ungroup to Edit Graphics. Delete all but one of the buttons that is working.
Then select the remaining button, open the Navigation Bar Properties (in the Website Properties fly out menu, last icon) and recreate your bar. Adjust your spacing, orientation, etc. as desired.
Hi, did give that a go and rebuilt the navbar but now none of the buttons are "sticky" at least its consistent! - deleted the whole navbar and rebuilt using several other of the examples and none seem to exhibit the "page your on" highlight for some reason - just seems weird - i guess some of the nave sets do and others dont. its not to much of a bother - i maybe might try some of the buttons and build something from them - thanks for the help tho, think i'm stuck with it - unless you have any other suggestions?
Ray
You can post your .web file and someone can have a look see to see if we can spot the problem.
Hi i've posted the web file for the site i'm working on, the nav bar is a rebuilt new one, but is still exhibiting the same problem, on this one none of the buttons "stick" to the page they are on, that is to say if your on say "home" the home button usually stays highlighted to let you know where you are on the site, dont remember doing anything unusual for it all to stop working like that, if its something i did i cant see what!:-O
Much appreciate the help.
Ray
Hi Ramshackle. If you want the page you are on to be highlighted (ie the tab to 'stick') then it needs to be in the Mouse Down Layer. I have done it for you on your navbar because I had such a great chuckle reading your site and I had a couple of minutes to spare afterwards. For your reference this is what I did :
To keep the tab highlighted it needs to be in the MOUSE DOWN layer.
Go to the Page & Layer Gallery and unclick the redeye in the MOUSE OFF layer.
Drag and drop the NavBar from the Mouse Off layer and put it in the Mouse Down Layer. Do this on all your pages.
There you go grumpy old git. I would like to see a site from the GOG's guide to life website!
Auto highlighting of the current page is default behaviour with just the MouseOver an MouseOff layers present. It will also work with those two layers plus the MouseDown layer. In this case the Down layer is used for the page indicator. As yours was blank nothing was there to display.
P.S. Just read through the site, brilliant ;))
Drwyd you are a genius (fawn fawn) i'm still coming to grips with mouse on mouse off mouse traps etc and it now makes sense, what is odd though is that i have used several type of supplied navbar templates and got the same result - the original problem may have happened when i was changing the colour scheme of the navbar - to correct it if i just use your modded web file is to just replace my one with the one you done?
Hopefully if i can get my last few brain cells into gear i will finish the last page today and the site will go live on sunday sometime, so i will post a message in the websites bit on here in case anyon else fancies a chuckle.
Again thx so much for sorting it out and Easter is next on the hitlist and your suggesting is interesting..... ;))
Just as a side issue, the changes have given me the the effect that went missing, just expanding on that, if for instance i wanted the nav bar to "highlight" each button on mouseover action, looking in the mouseover layer thats blank at the moment, i'm assuming i would need to copy the bar and make it a different colour and make sure it was in the mouseover layer to work? or is that too simplistic?
Ray
Ray
Hi Ray
Abi Spotted the problem (and supplied the fix) :D I just added the extra info :)
Nope, that's pretty much it :)Quote:
i'm assuming i would need to copy the bar and make it a different colour and make sure it was in the mouseover layer to work? or is that too simplistic?
My sincere aplogies to Abi, it was a quick read quite early this morning my "not worthy" is directed to you for spotting it and Drwyd gets an extra credit! many thx to you both youv'e saved this Grumpy Old Git a few more grey hairs!
I hope you both get what you want for Valentines Day lol
Ray
Hi again guys, i'm still struggling a bit with the concept of the buttons, iv'e posted the web files for my other webpage i did for xmas, if any of you clever types can work out how i can get the navbar in the valentines site to work the same as the one in the xmas page i'd be eternally grateful! - from what i can see, the xmas.web layer and gallery is showing just two layers, MouseOver and MouseOff and the navbar works a treat. - In the valentines.web site, the layer gallery has 3 layers, MouseOver, MouseOff and MouseDown - thats where i'm a bit confused, the working navbar (xmas page) has one less layer but does the exact thing i was looking for i.e page highlight, mouseover action and mousedown action - really cant work this one out.....
Hope the above makes sense, tho the website navbars speak for themselves...
my attempts at copying the navbar didnt seem to work for me - even copying the xmas navbar direct into the vanlentines one didnt work which leaves me to believe something else is going on i may have done...
Ray
Abi's version does not have mouse over effect however.
I MouseOff is the primary layer and MouseOver is the layer that will highlight the button when the visitors cursor passes over the image. MouseDown is an option layer that can be used to display a different image when the button is clicked.
As dwryd points out, but defaut, the mouse over layer is displayed to identify the current page.
Hi gwpriester, thx for chipping in, as you say abi's version doesnt have the mouse over effect, but when i built the xmas webpage all i did was drop the navbar on what i assume was the "mouseoff" layer and as you can see when previewed it does "stick" to the page, "highlight" when mouse over and the image changes a little when clicked, which is what i want to emulate on the valentine.web site, the navbar on the xmas.web site was just a stock one from the gallery but i cant make it play ball in the valentine.web site, please accept my apologies if i'm appearing dim here, but i'm assuming if i just drag and drop a navbar into the "mouseoff" layer it should behave like the one in the xmas.web site but it doesnt seem to be the case here for some reason.
Again thx for the input
Ray
OK Even I learn something new every day. (Or I relearn something I have forgotten).
If you create three button states, MouseOff, MouseOver, and MouseDown, the mouse down will serve to indicate the selected page.
So using this method the selected page button will be different from the mouse over button and will also give you an additional action when the button is press.
See attached.
Ray, you have to make sure that the bar you dropped on the mouse off layer, retains its layers. It probably has merged all the layers onto the mouse off layer.
Hi gw, i learn something everytime i come here to be honest lol
That bit interests me, is their a way i can stop that merging from happening, (assuming it might be doing that) - all i have been doing to be honest is using the supplied navbars in WD7 - and again if you look at the xmas.web file it seems to emulate a 3 button state? or is that a trick of the eye? - could it be to do with the colour scheme i have chosen for the valentine.web navbar causing the hiccup?Quote:
Ray, you have to make sure that the bar you dropped on the mouse off layer, retains its layers. It probably has merged all the layers onto the mouse off layer.
am looking at the file you attached as i type
again thank you for taking the time to help out
Ok just to clear up something i have posted another web file of the site in question and deleted the navbar and replaced it with a design from the gallery, added to more buttons and made it a website navbar - if you look at the result, i get the mouseover effect, get the mousedown style effect (i know their are only two layers here) and the "home" tab is highlighted, now if you navigate the site none of the other pages exhibit the "sticky" tab - is that normal? - again on the xmas.web file they all "stick" as you navigate through the site.
again apologies for dragging this out but its niggling me no end!
Ray
Hi Ray
You need to delete the MouseDown layer from all your pages. If this layer is present then the layer that is looked to for the highlight effect switches from the Over layer to the Down layer. If it is present but blank then the highlight (and Down effect) is non existent.
Hi Drwyd, yep i see what your getting up and thanks sooo much for the xar files, just to be clear (i'm having a bad day today!) if you look at the last web file attached, if you look at the xmas.web file, although the "style" isnt right, what it does is - i have a test page of the valentines site where it has no mousedown layer and its misbehaving, (this is the last webfile posted) i am really so gratefull for all the help i'm getting - i'm sure uv'e had a look at the navbar in the xmas.web thats what i want in function (dif colours of course) - if you were all closer i'd buy u all a pint!
p.s can i use the xar files in any way?
ray
Right click on a blank area of the page or pasteboard area and select Page Options...
General
Select the option to Import Layers into New Layers.
This will separate things like Navigation Bars, buttons, etc. and place the buttons on the proper layers.
Hi again gw, have tried that on my test copy of the site and although it does what it says on the tin and loads the nav bar layers into imported layers, tho i'm sad to say it didnt help much, to be honest i'm not sure whats going on here, everything is fine on the xmas.web file i posted, i just cantr get the same result in the valentine.web file - if your interested i did post the test web file si if anyone is looking at the problem its in that one, not in the modded file abi kindly did for me, i'm kinda giving up on it, i'll maybe take another look at it with some fresh eyes later, tho i' sure one you guys will pinpoint the prob if you can spare the time!
Again thx for all the input, if nothing i have learnt some valuable stuff i can use in the future. - i'm off over to announce the launch of it on the website forum (using the modded navbar that abi did)
Ray
Hi Ray
You have a blank MouseDown layer on all but the index page :)Quote:
i have a test page of the valentines site where it has no mousedown layer and its misbehaving, (this is the last webfile posted)
No probs :DQuote:
p.s can i use the xar files in any way?
thx again Drwyd, i was just messing about with those xar files you sent, not sure if i did it the right way but i hadnt seen your post, and using the 3state set you uploaded i dragged it onto the page and it loaded pages of the buttons, i copied the set, deleted the rest and pasted the navbar into the page, and blow me it all works as supposed to! - i'm so chuffed! - i'm sure their is a quicker way to achieve importing it but and i'll look at your thumbnail (ps i deleted all the mousedown layers in all the pages as well)
Thanks also to gwpriester for his input and the xar file you guys are something else, i really hope one day i can help someone out!
website is now live using the new and improved navigation system... =D>
regards to you all
Ray
I've been doing a lot of that myself just lately :DQuote:
Or I relearn something I have forgotten
Excellent news =D>
We are always glad to help :D
I always maintain that you don't truly understand a subject until you have learned how to teach it. I've gained immensely from giving back what I have learned (a lot from Gary :salute:) one day it will all make perfect sense and you will passing on the knowledge (just before the memory starts failing ;)))Quote:
i really hope one day i can help someone out!