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Drawing Rosette Patterns
I am very new to Xtreme (since yesterday) and am trying to learn it. I am trying to do line drawings of rosettes for chip carving patterns. I manually drew a circulral template of degree lines to use as a template when drawing these rosettes. I imported this into Xtreme as a bmp. My big problem with this is I have not found a way to lock this template down and it moves and gets out of proper position constantly. Can this be done?
I searched the web for months to find a program that I could use to draw this type patterns and thought I had found one but I am really having trouble learning to use it this morning. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
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http://www.xaraxone.com/html/shareware.html
Scroll down and look at the Curve Generation utility. Would this help?
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Faeb,
To avoid moving the bitmap pattern, put it in a layer behind you vector drawing.
You can set a layer to be visible but "fixed" so you cannot grab objects.
Luciano
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There are many tutorials and workbooks that you can read through at Gary's web site, The Xaraxone.
I would look through the workbooks.
http://www.xaraxone.com/html/workbook_index.html#L
Sounds like you need to put your template on a layer and lock it so that it does not move around, Then you can draw your designs on a new layer on top of it.
http://www.xaraxone.com/webxealot/workbook22/page_3.htm
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faeb
I am very new to Xtreme (since yesterday) and am trying to learn it. I am trying to do line drawings of rosettes for chip carving patterns. I manually drew a circulral template of degree lines to use as a template when drawing these rosettes. I imported this into Xtreme as a bmp. My big problem with this is I have not found a way to lock this template down and it moves and gets out of proper position constantly. Can this be done?
I searched the web for months to find a program that I could use to draw this type patterns and thought I had found one but I am really having trouble learning to use it this morning. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Just to give you the method I use.
Stygg2003
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Stygg,
Please don't "Quote message in reply" unless it is completely necessary please.
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Thanks to all who helped me with the layering. It works wonderful.
Also, I appreciate all the leads to places where I can find tutor etc.
There is so many out there. If only I knew what to look for... I am good at
having problems with no name. :-(
I have another question that I have searched for and can not find out how it should be done and I am hoping someone will come to my rescue... :-) It is probably so very simple for most of you but I am at my wits end trying to find out how to do this....
Problem.... How do I draw a square outline, put 4 little wedge shapes inside and seal them to make this all one object that I can copy/paste in several places on my project? I hope this is clearer than mud.
Any and all help is appreciated.
Faye :confused:
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Hi Faye
hopefully this will help
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Hi Faye,
Like all things Xtreme there are normally numerous ways of creating the same end result. So here's another alternative to Steve's method.
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Good one too Egg - anyone would think you'd been doing this for longer than me :D
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Egg Bramhill
Hi Faye,
Like all things Xtreme there are normally numerous ways of creating the same end result. So here's another alternative to Steve's method.
:) Thank everyone so much for all the quick replies and instructions. I have never been on a list where I got such quick responds. It is awesome.
I am learning a lot today and you guys are helping me greatly.
Now I want to know how to take a circle and divide it like cutting a pie
into 12 equal parts then drawing more divisions in this part and multiplying
it to make parts to put the 'pie' back together to make a rosette.
How do I cut a circle to use just a part of it? I am really feeling like a
dummy today but am determine to conquer this program no matter what. :eek:
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Faye,
To start with draw your elipse, then draw a straight line through it making sure it is centered over the elipse. Then clone the line and rotate the clone 30 degrees. Clone the clone and rotate 30 degrees and so on until you've created the lines for twelve slices.
Group all the lines, but not the elipse, convert the lines into a shape, then selecting the lines and the elipse, do a "ctrl, 2" to slice the elipse. After slicing it you will need to break shapes to separate them.
ron
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Almost the same process that Ron has posted for you, only a little different. Try both ways and you will probably learn your own way that you prefer.
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I know that you could just go to stage 3 to align in the above example but it's handy if your circle is part of an overall drawing where you don't wish the circle to change position.
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Thanks guys for the lessons on the pie. I have tried it over and over
and each time I am not getting the right degree and the shapes come
out slightly off the 30-60-90 degrees. I tried cloneing one 12 times and
putting them together again but there was about a half of one to much and
they would not go together again. I don't know what is the matter...
maybe my settings are wrong. Maybe it is the program. I hate to think
I won't be able to do what I wanted so much for this program to do
because I can't afford to buy another one.:(
Again thanks a bunch...
faeb
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Ummm Maybe you are using Cntrl-c to copy, which moves the created object away from the original. Try cntrl-K which clones the object directly on top of the other object.:)
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Hi again faeb, the program will do exactly what you want. It's a matter of learning how to do it. We can't see where you're going wrong so could you attach a .xar file so we can look at it?
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Ok... it would be great if you can figure out what I am doing wrong.
I am going to try to attach my project to this.[IMG]C:\Documents and Settings\faeb\My Documents/project.xar[/IMG]
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OOOPs.. didn't work so am trying again.I may need help on sending the file.http://C:\Documents and Settings\fae...op/project.xar
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Maybe I did it right this time. Sorry for so many posts everyone.
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And here's what you can do with the end results.
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Thank you for your help.
Don't know what is happening but my view of your attachments are very blurry. To give you a better idea of what I am doing I have attached a photo
of one of my projects. These are 4 inch blocks of wood that I carved then
put together with wooden strips. I want to make some designs of my own to carve on my projects.
faeb
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faeb
the 'blurry' attachments are flash videos - should have an arrow in the middle to play - if not you may not have flash installed for your browser
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I have made another sample of what I am trying to do.
I hope this will make it more easy to understand. I appreciate
your help. Your lessons are great. I am the dummy
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faeb
I think you may have got the angles wrong
when I repeated your cloning and set the angles [see the box below] I was able to move the cloned lines and get them to meet the corners ok
the rotation is clockwise so set the red clone to 90 an set the green clone to 270
should work :)
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I did this 4 times more and got the same results. I must have something
out of line somewhere. Sorry I am such a bother and thanks again.
faeb
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I checked it doing it the way I would have done it - heres what I think
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A couple of quick thoughts:
The arts & crafts, or Ruskin approach:
Let it be approximate. Your projects are beautiful. Do they have to approximate laser-cut, computer-controlled machined wood?
The geometric constructivist approach (spelled out in words, this appears far more complex than it is to do):
1. Set your canvas... 480 x 480... manually draw from corner to corner, establishing the center.
2.A. draw a working circle using the intersection of these lines as the origin.
2.B Strike a new working circle greater than 240pix radius, using the intersection of the working circle in 2.A. and one of the 45 degree lines from 1.
2.C. Clone this circle and move its origin to the corresponding origin opposite, right.
2.D. Clone this circle, move to corresponding origin bottom right.
2.E. Clone this circle, move to opposite origin, bottom left.
2.F. Draw lines from the intersections of these circles (fat ellipses in diagram below).
3. Continue bisecting areas as in step 2.
The attached XAR file has layers you can turn on and off to see the steps more clearly.
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heres something else that might be useful as another way of looking at things
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Hi,
In addition to Steve's post(#30)
You can select all(ctrl+a)and then align deadcenter(alignmenttool)
so my way would be;
create a square or make the canvas square
-create horizontal line(anchor point=center)
-clone first line,set the rotation box 90 degrees
-clone first line,set the rotation box 270 degrees
-clone first line,set the rotation box 45 degrees
-ctrl+a then align to center
Hans
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It can be very relaxing creating these rosettes.
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yes spot on there - are you going to marquet them? :D [thought I'd get in before john:) ]
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That isn't fair egg.. first time I drank anything in a couple o years... and you put up that animated one... like wow dude!:)
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Thank all of you for the helps. I was about ready to give up yesterday as I had became so frustrated but you guys have motivated me all over again. Maybe there is hope yet for me.
The rosetteboard was all hand carved by me with the use of mainly one knife. I love to do these but have had to work with someone else's designs. Now I want to do my own designs. That is why I am trying to learn this program. I have attached another of my projects to give you a better idea of what this is all about. There is no limit as to what can be made with these woodcarvings. The plate is 10 inches in dia.
faeb