White stripe around exported wallpaper graphic

Hello,

Please could an expert offer some help. I am trying to make a simple wallpaper. I check everything carefully. Make the page 1280 x 800. Make sure the alignment is ok by inserting measurements in the boxes - ie not dragging. Make sure no object is secretly sticking out a bit. I have deleted the page's shadow. But no matter what I do I find there is a white box around the wallpaper I export. Can't figure out why, and can't get rid of it. I have also noticed that sometimes, even though I have set all objects to have a 0 point - ie be butted up against the page - their measurement suddenly will show 7px or such like and it will spring back into misalignment.

Anyone any idea what I am doing wrong. I just want to make a simple 1280 x 800 wallpaper for a client, something very easy. But something is going wrong.

Thanks in advance.

A

What is the size of the exported wallpaper?
That might tell you whether something, like a shadow, is causing the problem.

What try and do is to use clipview of the size I want to export.
That way, you should have no problems.

Have you changed the graphic size and not just the page size? Try making a rectangle the finished size and color you want and center your graphic on that, group. Another thing you can try is to change the page color before exporting. On your graphic clear line color, I don't think 0 pix is quite the same but not sure about that. Hope this helps some.

Hi,
It would help if you posted the image in question...we are just grasping right now...
Jim

Hi All

Thanks for trying to help. I have tried all the above. It seems to be more connected to the fact that Xara cannot do absolute pixels. Try as I might, and whether I group everything in a rectangle or not, and whether I have carefully looked beforehand to see what could be making the file go out of kilter, I still cannot get Xara to make a graphic as it is on the screen. Exported to png, exported to jpg, exported any which way - I get the strip of white around. It's as if the program is antialiasing to the background. Experts, is it the case that you align your graphics slightly in from the edge to make sure they don't anti alias to the background? It is the only conclusion I can think of.

THanks again for helping. I am not in work today. The file is. Sorry.

A

http://www.talkgraphics.com/showthre...-problem/page2 is a five year old problem, and I think I still have it.

Arty, it would really help if you posted a XAR file. If too large, put it on yousendit.com or dropbox.com and post a link.

I have tried 3 times now and cannot replicate this issue.

Take care, Mike

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Originally Posted by Artyboots

It seems to be more connected to the fact that Xara cannot do absolute pixels.

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Xara has no problems with whole pixel integers.

For your wallpaper creation graphic I suggest:-

* Make sure all units are set to 'pixels' (no cm/in ect)
* set grid ruler spacing to decimal units (eg; 10px / 10 or 50px / 50)
* set 'snap to grid*
* Choose a New Blank Photo template
* Size your image to 1280x800
* Export (I chose JPG 20% compression)

Will be perfect
Sample using above method: http://i.imgur.com/KukRp.jpg

Since the OP isn't including an image for us, how does he/she expect a solution. I would export the image in question, open in bitmap editor 'mask' the whole image then reduce the mask by 1pix. and crop to that then import into XAra program and use that way. elimiates white edges.
Jim

Using the previously mentioned method works every time, there is no need to use external bitmap editors.
Another thing worth noting with version 7 and 'web document' templates is that Xara forces whole pixel png exporting to avoid white edges to page image elements. Try it.. :)

Dear Scotty,

It's 1am here. Is it reasonable to expect me to go into work at night, to get a file, to send to you, to see whether you can solve this? Oddly enough, I have been forced to use an external editor to crop Xara stuff, because of the white pixels on export. Annoying, isn't it? But I will go back in tomorrow and give the other suggestions a try. As far as I knew, I had already sorted out the grid and snapping, and was using "Photograph" rather than any of the other document or web page settings. But still I had trouble. I am newish to Xara, but not new to graphic design. I don't have problems with other programs - unless I've forgotten a shadow somewhere. I love that Xara can be so precise, but I also hate that. I wish it could be disabled for screen work (as opposed to print). I spend a lot of time trying to size and align everything to get a good look. It should be easy but it isn't actually. It's a pain in an otherwise excellent program.

Night night.

A

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Originally Posted by Artyboots

As far as I knew, I had already sorted out the grid and snapping, and was using "Photograph" rather than any of the other document or web page settings. But still I had trouble.

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Hi A,

In your opening post you said :- >>I check everything carefully. Make the page 1280 x 800. Make sure the alignment is ok by inserting measurements in the boxes - ie not dragging. Make sure no object is secretly sticking out a bit. I have deleted the page's shadow. <<
Yet above you say you are using the "Photograph" document. From this I think it's entirely possible you are probably not using the template I'm suggesting because the Blank Photo document has no page size at all - in fact there is no white page area on the screen and there is obviously no page shadow. It's a special document which accommodates whatever the size of the content placed on it and only exports that area. It's the probably the closest thing to pixel based editors like photoshop etc who's canvas is the size of the drawing.. Other page templates (with white page and shadow) are primarily intented for vector drawing, poster/brochure and website layouts

When you get time, please attach your *.xar document so we can help you further.

Blank photo. That's what I meant. I make the wallpaper using the blank photo, but still I get white lines on export. Will try what you say tomorrow. Thank you for taking the trouble to post.

Ali

Hi A--we were all attempting aid. Because we cannot reproduce the issue on our end, having a file, even a mock one that exhibits the issue on your end, is pretty much a necessity.

To recap, use pixels as the units. Make your page the intended export size, make sure all the desired elements either run off the page or at least to the page edge and exporting to the desired format simply works without any hassle. If your elements extend off the page, make sure in the export dialog to select the "Page" radio button on the Bitmap size tab. Be sure the dpi is set to 96 once page is selected and export.

Take care, Mike

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Originally Posted by Artyboots

Blank photo. That's what I meant. I make the wallpaper using the blank photo

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OK Ali. But there is no page, page edge or page shadow with those templates, therefore there is no need to make your page the intended export size.

I'll be happy to take a look at your .xar file when you get the chance to post it :)

Hello everybody. Am back, refreshed despite a sweltering night! I have allocated 30 minutes to educating myself today. I know. It's a tall order, considering everything I don't know... I really do want to crack this business of not being able to get anything aligned to the edges of a page. Can't go through life cropping in other programs!

I am becoming mystified by the whole thing. On my web site, which has the same structure on each page, I find some pages will not allow graphics to align. I set something repeatedly to a position of 0:0 and yet it springs back to 6 point something pixels. Just on some pages. Even when they have the same banner graphic. Also, I have one page where I must have accidentally set something, because the left hand ruler is in a totally different scale from the rest of the document, and is upside down, as it were. This is what comes of working to very tight deadlines. I am now going through everything with a fine toothcomb. But some things won't yield. Has anyone else got unruly rulers?

More later, if I ever get the white strip off my graphics!

Best wishes, and thanks to all for the suggestions.

Ali

Hi,

More success, but only after a lot of faff.

I did as suggested and set the photo size to be 1280 x 800. Then put the things on I wanted, one by one. When I set their X points to be 0 because I wanted alignment with the side of the page. There then proceeded to be a merry chase around the canvas. And this is what I can't understand. In the properties setting for the grid, the origin point was 0 for the X dimension. However, the page didn't behave like this. Whenever I set 0 as the X point, and everything looked aligned, I then saw the 0 had been replaced by -6. This happened with everything I placed. Suddenly realised that for some reason the 0:0 points for the page had moved, even though I don't think I touched them.

Whenever I moved an object on the page, I had to redrag the page origin to the correct point on the page. As soon as I moved any object, the page origin moved too and I had to reset it again. However, after the final adjustment I exported and all was well.

Are the origins not lockable by default? And are they not 0:0 by default? Now I know this I might be able to get my pages to behave a bit better in the web site.

Thanks to all for the suggestions. Try making a new photo. Try setting the page origin and the objects' origins at X = 0. I predict you will be constantly resetting the origins for both the page and the objects on it before you will be able to export. Wonder why.

Onwards and upwards.

Ali

I did as you suggested. I made a new document at the 1280/800 dims. Set the ruler origins 0,0. Made a rectangle with a grad. fill, export as JPG and attached it. I don't think there is any white edge.

Take care, Mike

resized for the forum, of course...

Hi mwenz,

Try putting some objects on the drawing, and setting their X origin to 0. I found that when I put a new object on and set its origin to 0, the origin points of the other objects all changed. I could only fix this by dragging the page origin points to the edge of the graphic, even though they were set at 0:0 in the properties.

Maybe this is only a problem on my system, but I can't imagine that.

Good luck.

Ali

Mike

Just an addendum. Until this thread, I would have never thought of making a Photo document. Even if I was making backgrounds, I would likely always use a normal document, setting it up for the pixel size as explained in the previous posts, add elements as needed and export it.

So, have you tried setting up a normal XDP document (not using Blank photo)? Do you get different results?

Mike

Hiya,

Out of interest, when you click on each object, what reading do you get for their X point?

A

Hiya A,

Attached for both the black and orange rectangles.

Take care, Mike

It the object has a border and the object is set at the 0,0 origin, half of the border thickness will be outside the origin, and will affect final sizing. This could cause white lines when exported.

A.

I was expecting you to attach your .xar file