Xara Xtreme Pro 5 or WebDesigner

I have bought first Webdesigner and made a website with it. After that I upgraded my Xara 3 to Xara Pro 5 (with webdesigner in it...)
I now made some changes and extra pages in the website with Xara Pro 5. But the interface is different, it is not the same as WebDesigner.
Some new buttons I made are not vissible. It is not as easy I thought.

What to do now? Do I have to go back to WebDesigner and make changes in that software. And use Xara Pro 5 only for 'print'
It looks (in Xara Pro 5) like, if not all graphics and texts are on the same layer, you cannot see them on your website.

Hi NicoB,

I went the same route as you. I started with WebDesigner and eventually upgraded to Xara Xtreme Pro 5.0. I found the interface to be the same except for enhancements.

If you're talking about how layering works and how it appears in Xtreme then it's more advanced and gives you more information. That threw me off at first but if you persevere you will find it to be much more useful.

I've been able to find mistakes in my sites with the updated Objects Gallery. I couldn't have done that with WebDesigner nearly so easy.

I think the differences between XWD and X5P is Xtreme gives you the ability to deal with the creation of graphics more than XWD....that's a very high level look at the program from a novice user.....me.....

Welcome to TalkGraphics Nico.

Yes, you can use Xtreme 5 for your website.

Xtreme 5 has the added benefit of more tools and more options.

But Web Designer and Xtreme 5 work very much the same.

I think you may have to recreate your layers. This is why your buttons are not visible.

Web Designer's primary layer is called MouseOff. In Xtreme it is called Layer 1. So this might be the problem.

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Originally Posted by gwpriester

Web Designer's primary layer is called MouseOff. In Xtreme it is called Layer 1. So this might be the problem.

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To be more accurate;

Layer 1 is used with 'drawing' document templates in Xara Xtreme 5.
'Web Document' templates in Xtreme 5 are the same as Web Designer and still use MouseOff for the base layer.
Web designer does not use drawing documents.

WEB DOCUMENT Templates in Web Designer and Xtreme 5
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More to the point, Steve, do you think that the reason for the problems Nico is having might be related to a difference in the layers?

I have no idea why Nico has problems as we do not have a .xar or .web file to study.
I can only surmise that the object gallery in Xtreme Pro 5 has momentarily befuddled Nico.
However, there should be no problem with *layer migration* between the two applications. It's just that the Xtreme Pro 5 Object gallery expands those layers to show the objects (and further still to expand groups and it's objects.)
Without further ado - I invite Nico to attach his .xar or .web file for us to check for any problems? :)

I'm slightly confused. I've just selected 955 pix XGA from the Xara 5 Page Options but the Object Gallery still shows the default layer 1 layer. Am I doing something wrong or do you have to manually change layer 1 to MouseOff?

Peter Walder

It shouldn't do Peter?

Haven't by any chance overwritten the default 955 pix XGA with one of yours?

I don't think so because I just tried choosing the 760 pix and 640 pix sizes from page options and they also leave the default layer 1 present. Your attached file works as is should and once loaded if I then change to one of the other page sizes they retain the MouseOff and MouseOver layers.Should I try a reinstall of the whole programme?

Thanks for the help,

Peter W

Ah - just found that if I go via the File-New menu and select 955 pix then everything works as it should and I get the MouseOver layer. It's only if you go via Page Options and choose the template that it doesn't work.

Peter W

Correct - File>>New selects a preset *template*
Pages options only sizes the currently opened page.

Thanks again. This simple ideas explains some of the problems I have had with other sites as the file>new method also selects the best options for default new pages and copying layers.
Peter W

Thanks for all answers. Xtreme Pro 5 is a little different, special the Object Gallery. I now have made a new navagition-bar, but one problem: By previewing from some links the text is not good (font). Hoovering is OK. See the photo.
This is because I have changed the size of the buttons (I made them smaller). After that I changed the Aspect Ratio of the text to get the right one. So, in Xara it looks good, but I cannot find why it is not good in the preview.

See also the xar-file.

UPDATE - after a few minutes ;-) - YES, I found the problem. I have to select the button, open MouseOver and MouseOff in Object gallery, then click on the Text line (inObject group - MouseOff) and then select left the Text-tool. Only then the Aspect-ratio (in topmenu) is visible. There I had to change the number 63% to 100%

I hope someone is been helped by my explanation... ;-)

greetz Nico