Here's an effect I've been playing about with.
Any suggestions on how to do it more efficiently/elegantly gratefully received...
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Here's an effect I've been playing about with.
Any suggestions on how to do it more efficiently/elegantly gratefully received...
I used the shape editor tool and simply created a shape around the text then sent it to the back, grouped and blended
I have this trouble alot of times. There is no easy solution in xara that doesn't involve manual fixing by deleting point by point and clean the result up.Quote:
Originally Posted by dpt
An easy solution: Use the big brother of illustration software to do 3d manipulation and import it back into xara.
Tricky solution: Use the 3d Bevel in Xara, export the result as a massive big bitmap and then trace the result using your favourite tracer (or use the inbuilt xara tracer which won't give you good results though!), then import the trace back to xara.
Well, if you don't mind the perspective, the 3D tool would work the fastest. I'm fairly new to using XX, so others may be able to tell you how to do this without the foreshortening/perspective. Maybe it can be done by playing with it a little more(?). I've attached the file just for that!:D:D :cool:
I don't think it took two minutes to do this, after I found the font.
I would go the Extrude Tool/Bitmap Trace route. Quick, efficient, elegant and fully editable.
Saludos,
Bob.
How did you do that Bob?Quote:
Originally Posted by iamtheblues
The extrude tool I understand(I think), but I have never been able to come to turms with the Bitmap Tracer, Are you using Utilities/Bitmap trace?
And how did you get the different letter colors?
I've been fooling around with this all morning and can't even come close.
I must be missing something because for me it is not "Quick, efficient, elegant and fully editable".
Hi Larry, firstly when extruding the logo, make the lighting arrows 2 black and 1 white. Place them so that you have as much contrast as possible. Also toggle off the gloss effect so there are no highlights.
If there are gaps in the extrude, make some black shapes and place them behind the extrusion.
The resulting bitmap trace should have 1 black shape and nine white ones - all editable. you may have to ungroup and remove the white background first.
Saludos,
Bob.
Thanks Bob.Quote:
Originally Posted by iamtheblues
I managed to do it once, as you can see, but cannot seem to do it again.
I cropped the origional image to get the letters, then I changed the text color to white and ungrouped, changed the individual letters then grouped and extruded. At least that is the best I can remember that I did.
Whatever I did that time I cannot do it again.
As you can see there some differences in the line weight around the extrude, which I also do not understand.
I have tried bitmap copy and trace but the results are so ragged that they are horrible. I'm still doing something wrong but I sure don't know what.
I don't have enough hair left to do any real hair pulling:D
OK problem solved. I did it again.:)
And this time I know what I did.
Edit: Thank you for the file Zupdude, that's what I needed.
OK, what am I missing here ..... ? Why do you need the bitmap trace at all? Just type the letters - rotate to suit - extrude - remove standard bevel.
I'm with Keith.
Why make it hard. 3D extrude is the tool to go ;)
Attachment 64043
Anything that goes to print should be ideally be vector's only, especially any type of typography. It will stay sharp and crisp and the file size will be smaller when distributing or e-Mailing documents. The extrude Tool will convert any text to bitmaps.
True, but it depends.
The above PNG is just 18k, perfect for email at that size and any 3D extrude in Xtreme remains editable vectors, so can easily be exported to the resolution required for print (if this it what Dave wants) at any time.
Also, any vector sent to print is rastized as it passes through the printers RIP (Raster Image Processor)
The OP example discussed in this thread is two colours. Hardly going to be a problem when it can be quickly run through Vector Magic (many pro print/sign shops are using this now) set to two colours, or quickly hand traced as Bob did.
Below is a vector magic output from the above attached PNG file which was first run through Mehdi Fine Threshold then exported at 300dpi.
Thanks for the feedback guys.
I could extrude then convert to editable shapes, but that gives me a polygonal path entirely composed of line segments.
Similarly, extruding then tracing often ends up with some unpleasantly flattened line segments and bulging curves. It's never going to be as high fidelity as the original art, even with a good tracer (i.e. not Xara's current one).
The perspective is a bit of a problem with extrusions. In this case I'm trying to replicate the style of a logo similar to the ones here: http://www.vgrfk.com/?i=2&j=6&id=14&prior=500 (see the 'lovely neighbours' logo on the second from bottom row). I can't quite seem to get the perspective right with the extrude tool.
It doesn't really matter in this example--it's just a doodle--but I do like to keep anything I draw as simple as possible, i.e. using the minimum number of points.
Regards,
Dave
In that case, I'd rotate the text and use a 200 step blend .........