Xara Xtreme Pro Rocks!

I was using XWD and I really enjoyed it, then I tried XXP and I found the object gallery totally indispensable, so.. of course I had to buy it.

I have just completed my first site, Red Barn, and I will be using Xtreme for 5 new sites I have been commisioned to do so you will be hearing from me regularly.

I'm going to have some interesting projects to work through in extreme.. first one being insterting a LIVE WEB CAM streaming video into a restaurant site!! hmmmm...

I am very excited to be part of the Xara community and particularly pleased that you have such a helpful forum.

One thing.. could there perhaps be a subforum in Xtreme and Xtreme Pro just for web site design?

All comments on my new site will be appreciated!

Red Barn = 10/10 Very clean and professional looking.

Also, you might like to add your photo to the Portrait Of TG thread. (The thread needs more ladies to post :D)

Hi,

looks cool, but even with a 16MBit line it takes long time to load. I think there are office applications that take less space than a single page there =). People with low bandwidth will spend a lot of time waiting ...

Juergen

Loads quickly here, Juergen, just a couple seconds per page.
All photographic images I have looked are are correctly exported as .jpg

Loads quickly here as well. I have broadband 10 Mb but I thought that the numerous of pictures would slow down but no, surprisingly fast. Thumb up for that one!
Sven-Ingvar

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Originally Posted by LindyJo

One thing.. could there perhaps be a subforum in Xtreme and Xtreme Pro just for web site design?

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The entire WD forum serves this purpose. All the web related questions for both WD and X5 should be discussed there. Remember - Xtreme does not have any web related advantages comparing to XWD. So all said in this context is true for both (well, 3 actually) products.
The Object Gallery is not web related as well as other features found in X5 and missing in WD, so they should be discussed here.
That's the way I see it. Perhaps moderators can add something to it. :)

Thanks all for your comments and compliments.. inspiring!!

Coxover.. as a client who has changed from XWD to Xtreme Pro I was just a little confused as to WHERE to post web design questions etc. I kinda felt that I shouldnt post them in XWD forum? (because I am using Xtreme)

Juergen, Thanks for the comment on the speed of the site, it is graphic intensive and I really tried to optimize and export all images correctly. On my side it is pretty quick... I will look at it again.

Do you guys ever sleep?????? :D

Classy site Lindy Jo.

I took a sneaky look at it with Lynx Viewer and was most impressed. The search engines will love it too.

I only have a 1500 broadband connection and because I am a long way from the exchange, I don't receive optimum speeds. Your site loaded nice and fast for me here in Australia.

Your logo is the slowest to load because it is a largish PNG file. If you replaced it with a JPEG, which looks do-able considering the white background, it would be extremely fast for a graphics intensive site.

Dale

I have a 768K adsl connection and the Red Barn site loads quickly on my machine. The Red Barn logo is the last to lead and that only took about 2 seconds.

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I have a 768K adsl connection and the Red Barn site loads quickly on my machine. The Red Barn logo is the last to lead and that only took about 2 seconds.

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Thanks for brining this to my attention .. I managed, without too much loss of quality, to optimise the logo by 50%...

Remember CTRL+F5 if you want to relook...

The site gets my vote! Looks terrific and is well organized. No page that I visited took more than about 1 1/2 seconds to load (if that). I say if you need to consider dial-up patrons, build a parallel 'slow-speed' site.

Tip-O-The-Hat

:eek: How long did it take you to put that site together, anyway?

...No, I don't think they sleep around here... I've often wondered the same thing.

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Originally Posted by LindyJo

One thing.. could there perhaps be a subforum in Xtreme and Xtreme Pro just for web site design?

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The entire WD forum serves this purpose. All the web related questions for both WD and X5 should be discussed there. Remember - Xtreme does not have any web related advantages comparing to XWD.
The Object Gallery is not web related as well as other features found in X5 and missing in WD, so they should be discussed here.
That's the way I see it.

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Hey Covexer,[sic] I know you don't run the forum; I do understand that, but it often seems that the answer to people's suggestions and complaints are answered on this forum with "Yes, but": YES, that's a problem, BUT there's a workaround; YES, that's a good idea, BUT that is not the way X does it; YES, we'll include that function, BUT not now.

Why don't you have a sub-category for X5 web stuff-IT'S A GOOD IDEA! ... X5 and WD are not the same product. X5 users will have other issues and concerns relating to web design. X5 can maybe do everything WD can do, but the reverse is not true. Jeeze- It's a good idea; it won't hurt anything; it would be useful; we want it. Let's just do it!

Hello Lindy,
nice site!

However, I find the jpeg artifacts around the letters on the intro page distracting.

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Hello Lindy,
nice site!

However, I find the jpeg artifacts around the letters on the intro page distracting.

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Huh? I don't see any artifacts and I had a really good inspection after you posted. It all looks whistle clean on my monitor.

Dale

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However, I find the jpeg artifacts around the letters on the intro page distracting.

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Hi Luz and dmcd.. I dont know what jpeg artifacts are.. please enlighten me?

All help and comments are appreciated!

Zupdude, thanks for your nice comments! appreciated. It took me on and off about 4 full hard days to do this site.. underpaid and over worked :D

Thanks also for your support on my suggestion

Hi lutz,
The Red Barn logo looks great still as .jpg, but the intro page uses .png files, so no .jpg artifacts or mosquitos there ;)

Lindy, artifacts are compression defects causes by aggressive data compression when using (in particular) JPEG compression.

Here's an exaggerated example.

Attachment 63151

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.. I dont know what jpeg artifacts are.. please enlighten me?

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Artifacts are, in effect, caused when the pic is "Compressed" to make the file smaller. It shows up as a rather "Pixelated" area in photos. Here's a pretty good example:

http://www.graphicsbazaar.com/images/Artifact 1.jpg

This is a fishing rod against a blue sky. See the extra little dots around the rod? Those are the .jpg artifacts.

I went back to see your front page... I didn't see the artifacts lutz mentioned; maybe something to do with his browser(?).
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Sorry, Sledge... Was writing this response at the same you were... and got a phone call during... I'll keep mine here too, though.

the logo [?], image with the horse and the text 'Red Barn', saves for me as a jpg [ 27.jpg ] so presumably that is what it is - the red does look a bit blurry on my monitor....

EDIT - I see you have mentioned that steve - so is this not the intro page then?

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Why don't you have a sub-category for X5 web stuff-IT'S A GOOD IDEA!

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Well, in my opinion it is not a good idea. It's better to keep all the web related questions in one forum, this way it's much easier to find the answer and more users will see the question so the chances are higher to get quick and great response.
For example, there's the Xara Flash forum. Flash can be created in both Xtreme and WD but we do have a single forum for this feature. I believe WD forum can be used to cover all web related questions the same way.
But this is only my opinion. Admins and moderators decide and create forums and subforums.

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X5 and WD are not the same product. X5 users will have other issues and concerns relating to web design.

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Hmmm... Can you name any significant web related difference between WD and Xtreme? There are tons of design features though, so Xtreme design related questions are better to be discussed here.

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it won't hurt anything; it would be useful;

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I'm not sure, but there is a lot of experience put into the WD forum. If we open new, initially empty web subforum for Xtreme, new X5 users may ask questions that are already answered on WD forum.

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Hmmm... Can you name any significant web related difference between WD and Xtreme?

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There's that 'Hmmmm' again...

I don't think there are any significant web related differences between WD and X5. On the other hand, I'm not THAT well versed in either program to argue the point. I will say that there are differences on the design end, and the folks who use X5 will, for the most part, approach more from a 'design' position and we'll be able to do things in ways WD folks can't; which also means answers to questions/issues on the WD side may not apply on the X5 side.

To repeat myself: If it might help, it won't hurt and we want it... Just do it.

I know I sound prickly about this, but this seems like such an easy request. Why not just grant the request? ... or at least find out what others think about it. I know we can get X5 questions answered here and WD questions answered there. I get it. Two good solutions; many thanks; we'd like a third, please.

If "they" open a new thread/sub-thread named, "Xtreme Pro Web Stuff", I'd guess that it wouldn't take 24 hours to have a question posed that could be answered, and maybe was answered, on one of the other boards.... So? It happens all the time... Redirect or have a duplicate thread. It won't take long for us to get over it.

...and what if it turns out not to be such a good idea? Dump the thread! It won't take long for us to get over that either!

If you'll pardon my lame attempt at analogy:
I understand that I can get to Spain by way of Japan, but I just want to go to Spain! Let me just go to Spain!

:D:D Thanks, and Be Happy! It's my BerffDay! :D:D

Please guys this is not the place to discuss forum layout or suggestions.

If you have ideas you'd like to see implemented at TalkGraphics, stay calm and objective and please use the Talkgraphics Announcements & Feedback.

Thanks

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Please guys...

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