Help with spinning logo please help!!

http://www.talkgraphics.com/attachme...9&d=1210846601

I really need help making graphics like this one I know how to make spinning logo's thats easy but I don't know how to add the outer text around the outside I've tried for hours but I'm really struggling could someone please show me with screen shots or point me in the direction of a tutorial I've already watched a few but I can't find one that's explains everything. Again Pleeeeeeeeeeease help!!

I've borrowed the spinning logo from another thread on this forum if that's not allowed I'm really sorry but it explains exactly what I'm looking to do I take no credit for it's creation.

You will need a text editor first that will export your text as a .wmf file. In your text editor set your text along a path in the circular fashion as shown in your example and export/save to a location where you can find it later. In Xara3D create your inside text/graphic and then click on "Border" on the bottom left hand side of your interface. Then go to your design options tab and then click on the design picker button. Navigate to where you saved your wrap around text and load it. You will then have your circular text wrapped around your center graphic. Your may have to adjust the different settings under the design options tab to make them exactly how you want them.
Then go to your Animation Options tab and select the Animation Picker button, choose "Rotate2AWave" animation. While still in the animation options tab,where it says "apply to" ensure only "design" box has a green check mark in it. There are four rotation axis buttons located directly below "You will want the third one from the left" click on it once and you should have your desired animation. You will have to adjust speed and so to your liking. If this is not clear enough please let me know and I will post some screen shots.
Here is a very quick example, Yea I know there is a spelling mistake.

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Originally Posted by villaforever04

http://www.talkgraphics.com/attachme...9&d=1210846601

I don't know how to add the outer text around the outside I've tried for hours but I'm really struggling could someone please show me with screen shots or point me in the direction of a tutorial I've already watched a few but I can't find one that's explains everything. Again Pleeeeeeeeeeease help!!

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Hi Villa,

I will assume you know how to create text in a circle and rotate it.

I also assume you're using Xara Xtreme. (They moved your post, so I wasn't sure.)

Let me know if this is not the case.

The way I do it is to divide 360 (degrees in the circle) by the number of frames you have and rotate each frame by that much.

If it's a clockwise rotation, you rotate negatively.

So:

I have 30 frames total for my animation.
360 degrees divided by 30 frames is 12.

So on each of the 30 frames you will have 12 degrees of rotation.

Frame 1, rotate the circle 12 degrees
Frame 2, rotate the circle 24 degrees
Frame 3, rotate the circle 36 degrees
And so on, and so on....

Maybe someone else has an easier way, but I've worked with this on other things and it works fine for me.

Here's a primitive example.

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Originally Posted by dogbertbh

Hi Villa,

I will assume you know how to create text in a circle and rotate it.

I also assume you're using Xara Xtreme.

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to be honest i'm still not clear on creating text in a circle but yes i am using xara xtreme

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Originally Posted by croowe

You will need a text editor first that will export your text as a .wmf file.

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could you please recommend an editor???

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Originally Posted by villaforever04

to be honest i'm still not clear on creating text in a circle but yes i am using xara xtreme

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It was a little bit confusing, because you've started two identical threads: One thread in the Xara 3D forum and another in the Xara Xtreme forum. If you need help with Xara Xtreme, then we should move this thread to the Xara Xtreme forum.

Creating text in a circle is a often discussed question. Please use the search function of this forum and you will find tons of helpful threads about this.

Regards,
Remi

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Originally Posted by remi

It was a little bit confusing, because you've started two identical threads: One thread in the Xara 3D forum and another in the Xara Xtreme forum. If you need help with Xara Xtreme, then we should move this thread to the Xara Xtreme forum.

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Actually, the original post WAS in the Xtreme forum and someone moved it to here. Which was probably wrong since Xtreme is being used.

Here everyone is giving advice based on X3D

No, there were two duplicate threads (in the Xara Xtreme and the Xara 3D forum). One thread was deleted in the meantime. Believe me. ;)

Remi

Right I'm now losing the will to live I've tried everything people have suggested and I still can't get it to work. I've attached a rough mock-up to show people what I'm trying to create. I need to know how to create it in Xtreme Pro 4 and get it to work in Xara 3D6. Please help don't lose patience with me I've now tried for approx. 8 hours it's not like I'm just getting people to do it for me!

Thanks Again guys!!!

Villa,

send me the xar file and I will take a look at it.

Also, important question - does it have to be an animated GIF or would a SWF file be ok?

THAT would save you a lot of time. :)

GIF if possible please mate I want it for mobile phone wallpaper I would be so grateful if you could E-Mail or IM me the process with sreeen shots or something so I can do it myself in future.

Thanks Again

thats the xara 3D file - have you got the xara xtreme [xar] file that you were creating the text in?

good result on the logo spin :)

You can do it in Xtreme. It might take a few more steps and maybe a little more work. The animation process is not automated in xtreme.
First you need to have your design in a new animation template.
Or, in xtreme open a new animation template. Then import or copy and paste your design. I see you already have the text on a curve and the shield.

Open the frame gallery and you can see the different frames for the animation. For now you only have 1 frame. Copy it, then on frame 2 select the text and rotate it in the direction that you want. Then using the 3D tool you can make the shield 3d and rotate that around with the 3D tool. Now you need to keep doing this. Copy frame 2 , then on frame 3 rotate the text and the shield a bit. The whole process may take several frames to get a smooth animation. I have included 3 screen shots and will include my animation too. It is not the smoothest animation. But I only have 6 frames. I will also post my .xar file and you can save it and maybe get some help from looking at that too. Hope this helps. Then you can easily export as gif or swf.

looks good Bruce :) - think it would be easier to get it smooth in xara3D?

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Originally Posted by villaforever04

GIF if possible please mate I want it for mobile phone wallpaper I would be so grateful if you could E-Mail or IM me the process with sreeen shots or something so I can do it myself in future.

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Your profile does not allow Emails or Instant Messages to be sent to you by other TG members.
I'd like to also point out, though TG actively discourages it and it's clearly pointed out in forum rules, dogbertbh appears ready to create this logo for you. We'd actually rather see you succeed in creating it yourself, first time than have it created for free.
Also, requesting instructions to be sent to you privately via email etc isn't useful to the Talkgraphics community, where we all should share in learning from the help provided by others. Therefore I'd really like to see any detailed tutorials posted here for everyone to benefit from.
Remember, we are all enjoying free help and assistance at TG - it is not a one-way street.

Check this out and let me know if it looks ok to you.

If so, I'll make a list of what I did.

In a previous post you said you were working in Xtreme, but the file was made using X3d.

I used Xtreme after exporting the shield animation.

I slowed the shield to 30 frames to try and get the text to smooth out a bit.

Might need to go even longer.

dogbertbh please use watermarking on your result rather than creating a usable result for the OP. Instructions on how you created your result are however Welcome.

Refer to Forum Rules about free graphics.

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Originally Posted by sledger

I'd like to also point out, though TG actively discourages it and it's clearly pointed out in forum rules, dogbertbh appears ready to create this logo for you.

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According to the link you posted Sledger:

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Please do not post any more requests for files in this forum. By that I mean asking for a logo or animation to be created for you or your organization.

This forum is for Xara3D users to discuss the Xara3D program and its uses. By all means ask for advice and help on using the program, or how to create an animation. That is still fine.

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TECHNICALLY It doesn't say anything about offering.
I am not creating a logo - he's done that.

I'm not even doing the work and handing it to him.

I am just making it work and telling him how I did it so he can do it on his own.

In any case - I am definitely trying to learn this as well as help and would absolutely show everyone what I did, step by step, if it works.

villaforever04. It would help if you posted your progress so far. You not really being very clear about where you're having difficulties.

For fitting text on a curve see THIS VIDEO TUTORIAL

To see how to make different parts spin in different directions download the attached x3d file.

Please note this animation is deliberately spoilt. As the rules state we do not create spinning logos etc. but try to assist members to create their own work.

Egg,

I have a TINY working knowledge of X3d and I couldn't tell you how to make those 2 spin differently based on looking at it.

:P

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Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill

villaforever04. It would help if you posted your progress so far. You not really being very clear about where you're having difficulties.

For fitting text on a curve see THIS VIDEO TUTORIAL

To see how to make different parts spin in different directions download the attached x3d file.

Please note this animation is deliberately spoilt. As the rules state we do not create spinning logos etc. but try to assist members to create their own work.

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I haven't got any progress I made the spinning logo which I've already attached i was really srtuggling with everything else right from make the text rotate in a true circle to getting both to appear in the same graphic

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Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill

For fitting text on a curve see THIS VIDEO TUTORIAL

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I have watched this a few times i can create the text circle but i don't know how to animate it and get it into xara 3d

The animation is not done in Xtreme. Import or simply copy and paste the circular text into Xara3D6. Use X3D's animation abilities.

Watermarked, Not to be used gif.

Is this what you're trying to do?

I was just going to answer your earlier question H but I see you've already found the answe r;-)

If you're referring to me, Egg... I actually did that in Xtreme.

Yes h I was. You wrote:

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I have a TINY working knowledge of X3d and I couldn't tell you how to make those 2 spin differently based on looking at it.

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Do you mean that you don't know how to do it or you would'nt know by looking at the .x3d file Ii attached?

Both. I don't know how to animate 2 objects independantly NOR would I get it just looking at the file.

Watching the video again now to see if I just missed it.

h, the video's just about putting text on a curve.

You can import several shapes, one at a time into Xara3D by copying in XXP and then pasting into Xara3D.

Have the Cursor viewable on screen
Hit Enter after the pasting to create a carriage return.
Paste in the next shape and repeat.

On completion, with the cursor still on screen you can select individual shapes using the arrow and Shift key. Once selected it turns a darker colour.

Now you can apply a different colour, extrusion, bevel and animation to that shape. So each shape can have independent colours, bevels extrusion and with some limitations, animations.

EDIT: The text on the Screen Grab should read Lt not Rt

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Originally Posted by dogbertbh

Watermarked, Not to be used gif.

Is this what you're trying to do?

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that's exactly what i want

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Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill

Have the Cursor viewable on screen
Hit Enter after the pasting to create a carriage return.
Paste in the next shape and repeat.

On completion, with the cursor still on screen you can select individual shapes using the arrow and Shift key. Once selected it turns a darker colour.

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what cursor i don't have a cursor in X3D

use ctrl+E to toggle cursor on ond off :)

Slightly off topic - I assume that these spinning logos help drain phone battery life quite quickly?

While keyboard shortcuts are nice, it's also nice to get to know your toolbars. Here's the Show Cursor icon.

every better to read the help section as we both know ;):D