Huge o/p files when converting to pdf

I'm using Corel X3 and Adobe Acrobat 8 Professional. When I create a .pdf file from a Corel X3 file the o/p is sooooo large. If I create a .pdf from Word the o/p file is smaller than the original. I know there are lots of settings on .pdf ouput and I've tried changing these. Currently they are set as follows:
General = current document
Objects = jpeg, 10, text to curves
Document = include hyperlinks, generate bookmarks
On Start = page only
Encoding = binary
Prepress = nothing
Security = nothing
Advanced = REnder complex file as bitmaps, fountain step 256, EPS files Postscript
Color Management = CMYK, apply ICC profile, Composite printer profile

I can create a CD file that is 19KB as o/p and then print to .pdf file that is 996KB... the entire file is all text no graphics and this becomes very unwieldly when creating a large .cdr file. IE: some i/p:

42KB .cdr
1039KB .pdf

Anyone with any helpful suggestions???

seems strange that I cannot attace a .cdr file here or I would show you and example of what I'm having to dea with.

Running Windows XP Pro sp2

thanks so much

Hi

can't help with the file size - but you can post up the .cdr file if you zip it first

I can create a .rar file. Will this work?

its not listed so I don't think so - what OS are you using - you can zip in windows XP without any additional software [so I guess vista too]

I'm using xp pro sp2. What command do I use to zip??? I've never done it. Only unzipped. :-)

right click on the desk top and then new>compressed[zipped] folder give it a name - then copy your cdr file in

Here is the zip which is now 8KB, the original .cdr is 16Kb and here is the o/p .pdf file which is 231KB... Quite a difference huh????

Inphoenix,

If I open your CDR file and re-PDF it with my settings at embed fonts, it comes out at approx 11.7kb, I assume the convert text to curves is the culprit for the large file size, as you have used Arial, any PC should open the document as well.

Try it, hope this helps - George

On reading the original post I too thought that the "text to curves" was the culprit.

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... the entire file is all text no graphics

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As far as I am aware, if you use the "text to curves" option, the entire file is a graphic NOT text.

I knew when I was typing the original msg that convert to curves would cause a totally graphic file but I didn't change my text.... good catch SS

Eliminating the text to graphics is not an option as the print shops insists on all text to curves so there is no font problems. I use a myrad of fonts in my documents... 2 different per doc if required but they are some really strange and graphic fonts. This particular file happend to be all Arial but this is not the usual.

Please try converting with text to curves option and let me know what size you get? I did not seem to have this problem is an older version of Adobe Acrobat Pro 7

Thank you for your suggestions... but I still need a better resolution to this problem.
Maybe there is none????

I did a test convert and chose different options for handling the text. What a difference this makes but I don't know how it will load onto clients computer if the client does not have the fonts installed on their PC that I have used in the document.

If your client is receiving the PDF as a Proof document and opens it in Acrobat Reader, there should be no problem if "any" fonts are embedded. If however they choose to use a different Program to open the PDF, yes, there will be a hassle, if they don't have the fonts installed.

Why not lock the document to stop them from using any other Program to avoid any font substitution problems? (Just activate the permissions password).

Just a thought,

Cheers - George

Sounds like a good idea but will that cause any problems with printing? They have to be able to print. One of the clients I have uses In Design to open and print documents to a printer that produces plates.

Thanks so much for the help.

Well, there we have it then I think.

Use the PDF Docs with the fonts embedded for proofing purposes, which can be opened in Acrobat with no problems - hopefully, and send on the approved copy with the curved vector files for printing if you do not want to include the fonts for them to install. I don't like handing my fonts out either, so converting them to curves/vectors is the next best option, but at the expense of a rather larger file. I believe not all fonts can be embedded, but have not run into that problem yet.

Take care and happy printing.