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Smart Flow Line 1, 2, 3 and 4
Ok, I love smart arrow, but how do you use Smart Flow Line 1, 2, 3 and 4? When I import any of these four smart shapes I don't see the handles (the blue, green and yellow dots to control the shape) when I select it like they do in any of the other smart shapes. Am I missing something here? If it's me :confused: how do you use these shapes?
I'm using Xara Designer Pro X 16.2.0.56957 on Win 10, Dell XPS 15, I7, 16GB, 1T SSD
Anyone else had the same issue?
Greetings
Viiartz
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Have you inadvertently deselected the Selection Bounds button?
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No, as default when you import a smart shape the Quickshape Tool is selected. When you import the Smart Flow line no control handles appear as in Image 1, if i then import a Smart arrow, you do see the control handles. The manual states that Flow lines behave just like Arrows. Obviously not!
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switch to the selector tool and make sure that the button chris mentioned is active, then switch back to the quickshape tool and see if the issue is fixed
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I'm unclear as to what you're describing. Do you not see the coloured handles at all, or that the lines are different to the arrows?
To me the only difference I can see is a lack of a curvature handle on the lines.
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I don't use these - but I checked - all seems working for both in my xdpx15.1 - the handles are there for both types, irrespective of the selector tool setting [as long as the objects are selected of course]
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I have looked more closely at your screenshots - in the first one your object is not selected - you can tell that because the quickshape options on the infobar are not greyed out as they would be if one of these smart objects were selected....
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Ok, on the Smart Flow Line, the Select tool brings up the normal control handles (black squares) as expected then when i switch back to the QuickShape tool handles disappear, no other handles appear. If i do the same thing with the arrow line, when I click the select tool the black handles appear then when I switch back to the QuickShape Tool the smart handles appear. This is the behavior I would expect from the Smart Flow line as well. Does it work on your version of XDP?
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on my version the smart handles are there on both the arrow and the flow lines
maybe the issue is with selecting the flow object
how about closing the program opening a new document and seeing if it works then... glitches can happen
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I can only agree with handdrawn, the handles are there as intended.
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in you video the status bar says your flow line is 'inactive' - not sure what that means - maybe it will ring a bell with someone else...
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Yeah, I can't figure out why either, and it's the same only with the four Smart Flow lines as far as I can tell. It's not like I don't know how to use XDP either, I've been using it since version 3 or 4 something like that. Maybe I need to reinstall the software.
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viiartz
Yeah, I can't figure out why either, and it's the same only with the four Smart Flow lines as far as I can tell. It's not like I don't know how to use XDP either, I've been using it since version 3 or 4 something like that. Maybe I need to reinstall the software.
inactive means you are trying to use a Smart Shape in a product that does not have the code to allow its smart use; it defaults to a dumb objects with no smarts.
What version did you get the line from and what version are you running with?
Acorn
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Acorn
inactive means you are trying to use a Smart Shape in a product that does not have the code to allow its smart use; it defaults to a dumb objects with no smarts.
What version did you get the line from and what version are you running with?
Acorn
I've recently fresh installed XDP on a fresh install of windows 10 on a newly bought SSD. The version I'm running is Xara Designer Pro X 16.2.0.56957. I've not opened any old document. I've renewed my subscription as well so I have access to the latest update. So I'm not sure how or why I would NOT have "the code to allow its smart use".
How do I find out what version of the smart objects I'm using?
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FIXED! I downloaded XDP again and re-installed it. The installer removed the old version and installed the new version except that its the same version. Old version 16.2.0.56957 new version 16.2.0.56957. What was different is that I has to deactivate the PC the installation was running on before I could activate the software. Did that fix the issue? Don't know but the Smart Flow Lines are now working!
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Thanks everyone who tried to help in one way or another!
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might have - I think I'm right in saying that there are restrictions on the availability of OCC items when running the program in 'trial' [not activated mode] - still it's fixed that's good :)
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viiartz
FIXED! I downloaded XDP again and re-installed it. The installer removed the old version and installed the new version except that its the same version. Old version
16.2.0.56957 new version 16.2.0.56957. What was different is that I has to deactivate the PC the installation was running on before I could activate the software. Did that fix the issue? Don't know but the Smart Flow Lines are now working!
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viiartz, in hindsight, it might just have been that the prior install hadn't sorted out all the attached libraries. We usually advise running the application once as Administrator to sort such out. I am pleased you now have a working version.
Thank you for coming forward with the problem and your solution. Others will appreciate if they get into the same situation.
Acorn
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good point about the libraries...
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Throughout the issue, my installation was activated. I was not running a trial version. Which added to the confusion.
Acorn, yep could have been also!
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Have you tried to start the program by right-clicking the program icon and selecting 'Run as administrator'?
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on a side note then, it is interesting that you needed to deactivate and reactivate when installing the same program version on the same unmodified computer, that should not be necessary..
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handrawn
on a side note then, it is interesting that you needed to deactivate and reactivate when installing the same program version on the same unmodified computer, that should not be necessary..
I would necessarily deactivate any Xara installation as this is MagiXara. Do something slightly different to what Xara has designed for and it rarely works in your favour.
Acorn
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I can remember in the pre-P3 licence days a simple roll back to an OS restore point throwing the activation, it is as they say in my part of the world, a caution