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I know you like these topics! So...
I want to add a dash of spice to my Bricks and Brass logo.
The cliche would be to do something bricky and brassy but I think I prefer the idea of simple text.
The original is Times Roman. It usually goes with a round logo to the right. It has to work on a range of flat coloured backgrounds.
I think I like options 3 and 6 best but what do you think? A-H are the scripty fonts that I have easily to hand.
I will attach the XAR file too... Some of the fonts won't work for you, though.
Thanks, as always.
www.bricksandbrass.co.uk
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I know you like these topics! So...
I want to add a dash of spice to my Bricks and Brass logo.
The cliche would be to do something bricky and brassy but I think I prefer the idea of simple text.
The original is Times Roman. It usually goes with a round logo to the right. It has to work on a range of flat coloured backgrounds.
I think I like options 3 and 6 best but what do you think? A-H are the scripty fonts that I have easily to hand.
I will attach the XAR file too... Some of the fonts won't work for you, though.
Thanks, as always.
www.bricksandbrass.co.uk
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for bricks 'n brass.
jens
jens g.r. benthien
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http://jens.highspeedweb.net
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jens
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..from a novice! Have posted them only cause I know that this forum is SUCH a friendly and totally encouraging place, they won't get slated, yeh, perhaps constructive criticism but I know (and as such have the confidence to post them) that no-one is going to come out and say CRAP (even if they are!)
Mags
ps: as you can see, have taken Gary's suggestion of using the ampersand
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...woven together?
Hm, with X it's really endless ;-}
jens
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ok, my break is gone, got to work on something else now. Was fun as always.
jens
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maybe trying something like two different fonts to portray the different mediums, something like this?:
http://www.imprintwebdesigns.com/Images/B&Blogo.gif
Chris
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I really like it and it really reflects the purpose. Nice work!
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Great stuff.
The reason I had "and" was to tie things tightly to the URL, but I like the "&" variations too.
My favourites are Jens' brass on green and Chris' (webitect). Jens' has the 'long and thin' profile that fits best with the existing site branding.
I have a few more days to experiment before I need to prepare signs for a show.
Thanks again.
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I think your solution is very elegant. I always like to play one font off another.
I would make the BRICKS font really chunky to play off the elegance of the script.
I used Shelly Volante for the script, Gill Sans Ultra Bold for Bricks, and Garmond Italic for the ampersand.
Gary
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Thanks to Gary P's Webzealot Workbook Page 3, here is my shot. (I know I'm breaking one of my own parameters!) The blocks are some of the colours that it needs to work over.
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your bricks look more like wood, and the brass is somewhat pale as if you've had too much fog the last months in the UK ;-}
BTW, I've checked your site - you guys have weird windows. Like in the country with the round door knobs - the guillotine type things to chop off fingers, hands, heads.
And your brick page is quite interesting as well. But overall it's not clear to me what products you are trading with or what kind of service you offer...?
Anyway, this is just off topic. Take a pic from a real nice brickwall and use it as a texture - but make it a bit larger to avoid the wood effect.
jens
jens g.r. benthien
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Even if the advice-seeker doesn't like some suggestions, they are really helpful because they clarify the parameters of the problem. So thanks everyone. If you work on your own as I do, this forum is the BEST place for immediate and helpful ideas and comments.
Thinking about it overnight:
1. I want to stick with "and"
2. I like Gary's conflicting fonts, but with a touch less conflict
3. I like Chris' Edwardian script; for a single word it is clearly legible
4. Mags: I need to work within the box - otherwise I will have to rework the website in a big way!
5. I like Gary's suggestion of large and small capitals
6. I may use the brass and brick fills in some applications but I like the simplicity of flat colour
The second set has a flat bevel size 2pix, contrast 86%. I like these!
And on the practicalities, they export as GIFs with the coloured backgrounds well (<9k filesize). I tried making them transparent to sit over a table cell with bgcolor but I run into the fuzzy edge problem.
Thanks once again for your inspiration.
Yes, we do have windows that chop your head off if the ropes break! Bricks and Brass sells nothing - it is an information site, but the money is *supposed* to come from paid entries in the Products and Services directory. Wry grin.
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my vote gets no. 4 (unbevelled), nice chunky brick font (i would (! - what do i know!) try reducing the tracking a bit to tighten up the 'Bricks'), best contrast of fonts.
just a suggestion, but i think 4 MIGHT also look good if you bevelled the brass (not the brick though) and with the 'and' make it...can't think of the right word "incut",
...just my humble opinion!
Mags
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...and another approach - including the 'and'. 'Disguised' in a square... and a b/w background.
jens
jens g.r. benthien
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http://jens.highspeedweb.net
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But I have a good font called "Dungeon" (or Dungeon Blocks Filled).
Here is my all caps attempt.
Dale
Why, I’m afraid I can’t explain myself, sir, because I’m not myself, you know...
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How about entwining the "and" and Brass?
Mickie
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this thread is posting?
Please resist the tempation to save your JPEG images with minimal compression as this is what is causing this thread to display so sloooooooooowly.
80% or less compression usually works pretty well.
Gary
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I am glad I got to toss out a keeper of an idea.
Gary, I like the fonts you chose, I didn't have more than a few minutes when posting my response, so I used the first three fonts I could recall that would do the job. (Bold Univers, Garamond and Edwardian Script, by the way...)
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So I did another.
Dale
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Looking at the site I can see why you (Simon) are leaning towards a white-on-colour approach. My design follows out of yours. I felt the "bricks" font could be more claylike. The one I used is called 'Informal' which became even more claylike when italicized. My "brass" is a font called 'Edwardian Script" but I fattened it up with the contour/inset path tool. I thought shadows behind both main words livened things up a bit.
Regards, Ross
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After some more experimentation...here is (I hope) a final set with one version in plain white for most uses and engraved brass for others. I've included the original too.
The big leap came when swapping the fonts on the 'and' and 'brass' which make 'brass' brass sign-like. It also freed up the fancier font for the 'and'. But Gary's (and others) early views on using an ampersand looked best. The Experts. The fonts are Arial Black (Bricks), Kunstler Script (&) but stretched, and good old Times NR (Brass). The brassed & needs some work - digging out old postings on cutting bevels.
I have played with ideas for the house but none looked good enough so I will stick with the current blob minus text.
I think it answers the "why" test that a graphics-designer friend said she was blasted with at art college. Ie there is some reasoning behind the choice of fonts, colour etc.
Unless you have better ideas!!!!
Ross: I will look at the Informal font...
Thanks again.
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That Informal font looks either a little American (although it seems to have a Dutch connection) or else I see it used in the UK for pile 'em high, sell 'em cheap sales! Another brick-ey one I found is Ultra Serif SF but I think I prefer the plainness of that Arial. This topic (of fonts) is so subjective and in the sub-conscious.
Thanks tho for your thoughts. The shadow is a good one - and works well on the lighter backgrounds where a little extra is important. Thanks.
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[This message was edited by Simon T Lewis on April 22, 2002 at 07:19.]