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It's been a while since I posted anything in the forum so here's my latest WIP, a roadster. The steering wheel is missing as well as teh dashboard and seats (but hey, that's why it's still a WIP http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif ). Also the wheels are a bit too wide. All constructive feedback is welcome.
Modelled in Wings 3D and rendered in Vue d'Esprit.
BTW, the latest I read about a "commercial" wings in the wings forums, is that it will still be freeware. But if you would like to support the development of the program, Bjorn G happily accepts gifts and donations (escpecially gift certificates at amazon UK)
-Paul
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It's been a while since I posted anything in the forum so here's my latest WIP, a roadster. The steering wheel is missing as well as teh dashboard and seats (but hey, that's why it's still a WIP http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif ). Also the wheels are a bit too wide. All constructive feedback is welcome.
Modelled in Wings 3D and rendered in Vue d'Esprit.
BTW, the latest I read about a "commercial" wings in the wings forums, is that it will still be freeware. But if you would like to support the development of the program, Bjorn G happily accepts gifts and donations (escpecially gift certificates at amazon UK)
-Paul
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a snapshot of the WIP roadster
-Paul
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good to see you again & welcome back to the gang!
Hm, box modeling? Wow. Hard to believe but after seeing the second pic there was no doubt any more. That's a real goodie! Keep pushing the polygons ;-}
jens g.r. benthien
designer
http://www.sacalobra.de
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whatever you touch - it's perfect and has a certain kind of humor in it! You are a real talented artist.
jens g.r. benthien
designer
http://www.sacalobra.de
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Hi Paul.
I got a question, having not used Wings...did you render in Vue because you do not like Wings rendering engine, does Wings have a rendering engine?
Curious minds want to know.
My Best,
Gare
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the back end of Paul's roadster ...shaded/wire/render here... looks to be rendered in Wings3D... I would suggest that the renders done in Wings are only to preview, to give one an idea of how things will look, but no, it is not a quality renderer by any means... Wings allows for box modeling, basic coloring and UV mapping... from there it is on to other apps for bringing things to the stage so to speak...
of all the apps I have tried, I found that C4D v8.1 has pretty much the same toolset for box modeling as is found in Wings3D, from move>normal to loop tools... just different approaches in how things are interacted with is all... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
[This message was edited by gidgit on April 30, 2003 at 11:38.]
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I'm not married to trueSpace by a country mile, Gidge. I was just curious as to why Paul rendered out of Vue. Vue is not free, natch', but it does seem to be a rendering app of preference for folks whose preferred modeling app doesn't cut it.
Which casts no aspersions on any modeling app whatsoever. In fact, my fiorst love, MacroModel, didn't even have "finished rendering quality", but instead hooked into RenderMan.
As a matter of fact, RenderMan comes in a Maya flavor, and yet I've not seen anything particularly wrong with Maya's internal renderer.
Just curious. So many modeling apps, so little time!
My Best,
Gare
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haha, I went for a walk and thought about it, came back and ommitted the trueSpace part... only to find you had already replied there Gare... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
ya know what... I have trueSpace 3 on my machine, and use it pretty much as a direct replacement for the renderer in Wings3D... never goes any further in that app re modeling or textures carried over to C4D or what have ya... just find it handy to check out soft and hard edges through the paint tool... that one tool is by far my favorite in tS... great preview render app... something about this little but mighty in it's day app which keeps ya coming back though... but...
yea, technology decides break off points through new inovative methodology allowing for more to be done quicker and easier... and that's a cool thing, just hard to keep up to at the best of times... why it is good to have a wide variety of feedback on these matters http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
In my mind what is important when learning this stuff is... how many tools does the app have and how many and which do I need?
will the app(s) take us to the next stage or will we have to retrain our minds with a ton of new icons... this is where the text menu's come in... you are only storing the functions in your mind as in apposed to the functions plus their icon... so when it comes time to learn a new app you have gained the most from the least which delivered the most... towards what you were attempting to learn...or something like that... http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/biggrin.gif
[This message was edited by gidgit on April 30, 2003 at 12:09.]
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so anyway, this leads off to how things are handled between each alternative set of apps to go from modeling what ever, to texturing and UV mapping... on and on...
how do the various apps handle these tasks?
Say for instance, which formats work better in Vue, or tS, or Carrara, or C4D, or Maya, or even ZBrush, and why? How are things handled? What are the Gui's like, and how do they allow for workflow to comeabout... What are the break off points re tools and what they will allow for...Are the results comparable in any way?
haha, things to consider eh?
anyways, great stuff Paul... looking forward to seeing this baby all a gleaming http://www.talkgraphics.com/images/smilies/smile.gif
uh, one question before I go Paul... what kind of machine do you work on... power wise and vcard wise more than anything...?
[This message was edited by gidgit on April 30, 2003 at 12:57.]
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Gare - As Gidgit pointed out, Wings is mainly a modeller without "quality" rendering. There are some plugins for rendering with Yafray and Blender. The rendering in Wings is just for previews. Vue d'Esprit on the other hand is a very good renderer (not only for landscapes). Since I am not only into 3D art I haven't bought any other 3D apps than Vue (I tried Bryce but the GUI was too complicated compared with Vue). So Vue is my allround renderer when it comes to 3D.
Gidgit - at work I have a AMD 800 MHz with 256 MB RAM and a Matrox G450 graphics card, and at home a AMD 1000 MHz with 512 MB RAM and a GeForce4 Ti4200
-Paul
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