When i enter text into a text box it looks Ok but when pre-viewed it sometimes extends out of place. The solution seems to be to select the text with the selection tool then group it. this works OK but why is it necessary to group text?
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When i enter text into a text box it looks Ok but when pre-viewed it sometimes extends out of place. The solution seems to be to select the text with the selection tool then group it. this works OK but why is it necessary to group text?
After entering the text are you resizing the text area using the selection tool rather than the text tool? That could cause the problem.
Hi John,
No, no resizing. The text never seems to stay as you entere it when you go to preview or to a browser on the web. It looks good in the design but is then different in real life. Group it and it works OK.
Grouping the text will force it to be exported as a graphic rather than text, this means search engines will not be able to read it.
Please attach a .web or .xar file that exhibits the text problem so we can examine it for the source of the issue.
Peebs
Have you changed the default text size in your browser? This can affect the display of your text area and make it spill out of the intended area.
Grouping text is a way to ensure your text displays exactly as you have created it by converting the text into a PNG bitmap image. But as a bitmap, there is no information to inform a search engine as to the content of the text. If you decide to group the the text, then add some Alt text (Website Properties > Image > Alt text) that explains what the text says.
But first check to see that you have not increased or decreased the text size in your web browser.
Hi Bill and the others,Quote:
Originally Posted by Soquili
Sorry for the delay - I have been off the air for a couple of days.
Here is the file that I am having a problem with. The text box layout looks OK in the design stages in XDP6 but goes all over the place when previewed or when seen on a browser. Any help will be GREATLY appreciated.
Yep, I see what you mean. Beats me.
You do have a Layer 18 under Layer 1 but moving that up does not solve the problem.
I have been working with WD for last 6 months and I face this problem frequently. I never cared about it, as I always sorted it by either changing the font or shifting the text. yes, many times the text extend themselves out from the text box. :) In the screenshot you can see that the in WD the text is under the box, and in preview its extending outside the box.
I have also attached the examples of my screen shots. Hope it helps you, not with texts, but, to know that you are not alone facing this. :)
Hi Gary, i know that I have various layers - I have tried shifting the text up and down the layers but I still get the problem. incidentally, I had the same problem in Xtreme Pro. it looks like others are having the same problem. Am I right in assuming that the preview viewer is built into the XDP? Or does it use any part of an outside browser? Before I sent you that file I tried to create a smaller file that would demonstrate the problem but the system worked OK and the text stayed in place!!! However, It goes bad more often than good. Please let me know if you come up with anything as it is fairly useless for web design as it is because of the limited crawler access.Quote:
Originally Posted by gwpriester
Regards
Peter
Hi Gary,
In the file I sent you I just noticed another problem. Again, on the design page all looks well but in preview not only does the text spill over the text box but the right hand photo of the woman does not properly repel the text wheras the left hand photo of the man does. Both photos have the same settings. Does that throw any light onto the text problem?
Regards,
Peter
There are two issues with that document:
1. The area of text in question has an aspect ratio of 91.15%. This cannot be translated accurately into HTML. Use the text tool to select the entire text area (Ctrl+A) and then reset the aspect ratio in the info bar to 100%.
2. The document is set up for print output, not web output. Look in the Options dialog, General tab. The two switches at the bottom, "Document is intended to be a website" and "Show Windows compatible text lengths", should be checked for web output.
Hope that helps,
Phil
Hi Peter
Checked your Xar again - in the cold light of day as it were - and I saw that your aspect ratio for the text is 91.1%. Changed this to 100% and problem solved :D You must have accidentally resized the text box with the selector tool.
Just seen Phil's post :eek: Should've looked - too eager!
A bit more info on the text spillage problem.
1 Text looks good and stays within the text box in design page. Text repel on both photos in first para ( see earlier submitted file) work as intended.
2 In the preview page text spills out of the text box and even off the page PLUS right hand photo (lady) no longer properly repels text.
2a It has been suggested that the problem was caused by stretching or squeezing the text using the select tool during design phase. Whilst, inadvertantly the text in the second para had been squeezes (91% aspect ratio) putting this right did not clear the problem on the preview page - text still spills and right hand photo seems to lose repel.
Going now to loading into external browsers:-
IE8 works OK no text spill repel works as intended.
Google Chrome works OK as above.
Safari works OK as above.
Firefox 3.6.12 does not work - text spill and no repel in right hand photo.
SeaMonkey - 2.0.10 (Mozilla) same as Firefox.
I generally do my initial testing in Firefox which is why I reported the problem as being in both the preview and the browser.
Questions:- What browser is the internal preview based on? The two Mozilla browsers and the internal preview page ALL exhibit the same problem.
Does anyone have any good ideas other than grouping the text and turning it into a graphic that is invisible to the search engines???
best regards,
Open the .xar I sent above and preview - the text does not overspill :)
Hi All,
Just to make sure that we are all singing off the same hymn sheet I am re-posting the file again. In my preview page the text on both the paras overflows and the left top photo of the lady does not repel the text properly. However, when viewed in an external browser such as IE8, Safari and Chrome it displays properly. In Firefox 3.6.12 and it's cousin - SeaMonkey (both Mozilla) it displays the same problems as it does in the internal preview page - text overflow and no repel on the right hand top photo. I normally use Firefox for initial testing.
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Many thanks.
Hi Pete. From your new attachment: ratio for bottom text still set @ 91.1% and top text has a 0.5 border. Alter these and check again :)
Hi John,Quote:
Originally Posted by neodeist
Are we both using XDpro 6? because here is a screen shot of the file in my preview page. Note the overspill AND the lack of repel text on ONLY the rh photo.
Regards,
Hi John,Quote:
Originally Posted by neodeist
I just opened the .xar file attached to your message and noted that you had changed the aspect ratio for the lower para to 100% - I had already tried that. However, your file in my preview window still overspills and I still have the repel text problem on the RH photo. Maybe I just have a bad copy of XDPro 6
regards,
Peter
That suggests your browser settings are causing the problems, not Xtreme/Designer. I'm sure your copy is exactly the same as everyone else's.
Try resetting your browsers back to their default settings. Make sure the zoom level of the browsers is reset to normal.
Also, back in XDPro, make sure you set "Document is intended to be a website" and "Show Windows compatible text lengths" as I described above.
Phil
Hi Phil,Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilM
Thanks for the info. I knew about the 91% aspect ratio on the lower para and I had changed that to no effect. I didn't know about the print setting problem - I always assumed that that was set automatically when you started a new webpage design. Anyway, I change the setting s - ticked the two boxes - and STILL have the same two problems when I go to preview - text overspill on both blocks of text and no proper repel text on top Right hand photo. I am beginning to think that I have a bad XDPro6 installation except that I sometimes had this same text overflow problem when I used xtreme pro 5..
Many thanks for your help,
Peter
Hi Phil,Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilM
I don't think it is a browser problem in that despite the fact that I have the two problems in preview the exported file looks OK in IE8, Safari and Google Chrome. It only repeats the preview problems when viewed in Firefox 3.6.10 which is my default browser. I have not changed anything in any of my browsers. I did take your point re the general tab settings - it made no difference to the preview problems. I have attached screen prints of the exported file shown in IE8, & Safari - all look OK on text overspill and the repel text problems. I have also attached the same exported file in Firefox - both problems clearly visible. The file showing the preview page in XDP6 clearly shows the problem while the file of the design page shows the layout as designed - no problems!!!
can you make anything out of this lot???
Many thanks for your help so far.
Best regards,
Peter
Hi Peter,
The "preview" attachment in your previous post shows a Firefox window. Is that correct?
If so, then you are only showing us a problem in Firefox, all you other browsers appear to be working. So I still suspect that it's a browser problem.
BTW: When I have fixed the aspect ratio, text line width and document properties your original file previews correctly for me (using IE subsystem) and displays correctly in Firefox 3.6.3.
Phil
Hi Phil,Quote:
Originally Posted by PhilM
Yes, only FF in the browsers has a problem BUT the preview page indicates the very same problem. Hence my original question - does the preview page use and internal browser or the individual computers default browser? If so, my my default is a mozilla browser which might explain the problem but i think that the preview uses a browser independant of the computer and included within Xdpro6. If so, what is the basis of the preview browser?
"BTW: When I have fixed the aspect ratio, text line width and document properties your original file previews correctly for me (using IE subsystem) and displays correctly in Firefox 3.6.3". I have corrected the aspect ratio - which only applies to the lower text, I have checked the web page output and the web page text width but I still cannot get a proper layout in FF. Forgetting the text overflw for a moment, what is causing the repel text problem only on the RH top photo in preview and FF?
I have checked my system for virus/corrupt files etc and it is OK. Next step un instal XDPro and do a complete re-instal. The only problem is that I seem to remember that I HAD THIS SAME PROBLEM IS THE PREVIOUS VERSION XEXTREME 5- which might indicate a problem within Xara.
Many thanks for your help,
Best regards,
Peter
With all due respect, if it was a problem with XDP everyone would have problem with the preview. BTW I think the preview is IE, though what version I don't know :-D
Hi John,Quote:
Originally Posted by neodeist
This iss driving me nuts and I am about to go back to hand coding!!
I have checked out my system - all OK.
I have uninstalled ALL Xara progs.
When I tried to reinstal XDP6 from CD it hung finally saying that it couldn't read a file.
I then reinstalled from my download copy - installed OK.
BUT I STILL HAVE THE OVERFLOW AND REPEL TEXT PROBLEMS IN PREVIEW!
this is madness - I just cannot understand why, when I design a page the text looks Ok - when I go to preview, using the internal browser I get text overflow etc.
I am about to chuck Xara in the bin.
Regards,
Peter
Yes, the XDP preview dialog is based on IE. On my machine I also have Firefox set as the default browser but the preview window uses IE.
If you are seeing a Firefox window when you "preview" then either you are doing the preview in a different way or there is something very unusual about the setup of your machine.
The preview button is a simple page-with-an-eye icon and has the bubble help text "Export and preview web page". That's what I'm clicking to see the built-in IE preview window in XDP.
Remember that at least two of us here can make your file work correctly and you have seen the problem in different versions of XDP installed on your machine. This all points to the problem being specific your setup, or possibly an interaction between your particular setup and XDP. And in particular your setup of Firefox.
Phil
Hi Phil,
I finally decided to re-install from my CD (Although I had the CD I was using the DL version updated). I un-installed XDP6 via Control Panel and tried to re-install from the CD. The CD version simply would not install. It kept saying - after a very long wait - that a file was missing or not available. Everytime I tried to install it stopped on a different file as being missing or unavailable. The thing is that everytime I checked the files were there on my C:drive and available.
I have turned the whole mess over to Xara support. maybe they can make sense of it.
I know that you and others say that they can preview my file OK but beleive me there is no way that I can get preview to properly display the text or properly show the text repel on that one photo. Yes, I know that the exported page looks OK is all the browsers apart from FF but I cannot find anything wrong with FF. It displays files that I created earlier and on earlier version OK. So, I still feel that it is something in XDP6 that is causing my particular problem.
Thanks for oyur help and your comments,
Regards,
Peter
The latest on the text overspill problem
I passed it over to Xara support but so far they have not been able to explain why.
I tried re-installing XDP6 from my CD - no go. The install process kept saying that it couldn't read various files - a different file each time!!
Reverted to a download and installed OK.
Recreated the web page in exactly the same way as before and it works OK - open the original file and i get the text overflow problem again!!
Maybe I had a corrupted installation but I definately had a corrupted .xar file because I can repeat the problem by opening the original file in the newly installed version of XDP6.
What is wrong with my CD - I have no idea. | hadn't used the CD before, I just kept running on my original download. I did a full unistall from the control panel before trying to reinstall from the CD and the new download.
Maybe Xara support will come up with something. If, as has been posted, the internal preview engine is based on IE I really don't understand why I got text overflow in the preview page and yet the exported file looked OK in the IE browser.
By the way, my apologies. The screen shot that I posted of the pre-view page was actually the FF screenshot but they both showed the same problem.
Anyway, many thanks to all of you for your advice and comments.
Best regards,
Firefox does now have 3.6.12. Maybe try an update and see if it helps you? I can't make the problem appear.
Jim