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Can someone point me to a site where I can get line drawings similar to these two drawings, both characters and objects.
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Are there any tutorials on using the sketch tool, tried a little with a Wacom table, but wasn't very successful.
Thanks
Al
I personally use my mouse to draw lines around objects.
I'm not sure what program your using but here is a tutorial that may be helpful http://www.xaraxone.com/tutorials/dr...nts-episode-1/
I'm using Xara Graphics 10.0
that is not mouse lineart surely; if it is someone had a lot of time to spare..
if I were doing it with a wacom I would do it in a raster program such as painter or sai or manga studio and then vector it afterwards with vector magic, totalvectorize or inkscape if necessary
you can probably do the first in xara given practice using the freehand tool and the wacom, but the second one looks like a caligraphy pen and xara does not have one [although you might be able to fudge it with the shapebuilder tool - but that tool being screen pixels only does not make for a pleasant workflow in this regard]
laguna - Do you want to create these line drawings or do you want to purchase them as clip art?
Always like a challenge Handrawn. 100% Xara, 10 minutes, didn't use the trace tool, Only Shape Editor tool & a mouse.Quote:
you can probably do the first in xara given practice using the freehand tool and the wacom, but the second one looks like a caligraphy pen and xara does not have one
:D
thing is that is a very loose drawing - if I spent more than 1min making it from scratch with a calligraphy pen I would be worried [about me]
Well, initially I was going to draw them, but my first couple of attempts were lousy. Haven't tried painter yet as mentioned above. I'm thinking might be more cost effective to buy, if price reasonable enough, looks like you can buy a subscription at some sites. In the end I need svg files, doing a whiteboard animation.
Looks really good, do you have an art background or just a good eye?
Paint seemed much easier to draw in for me. I'm just doing these basic line drawings, do SAI or Manga Studio offer anything that I might need for such basic drawings. Is there any sw out there that might have a library of figures and objects of the style I'm interested in? Any recommendations on software for creating a whiteboard animation video, want to animate the redraw of the object.
Very good Egg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Egg Bramhill
There is tons of cartoon clip art https://duckduckgo.com/?q=cartoon+clip+art I would avoid free clip art because often times the sites include unwanted software in the download some of which may install on your computer and might be very hard to get rid of.
if you only want clipart suff not worth paying a lot for a program maybeQuote:
Originally Posted by laguna92651
actually inkscape has a calligraphy tool that behaves more naturally instead of wobbling like xara's freehand tool does [ok there is a reason for that, but it assumes you draw like a tortoise and not a hare]
and it will be vector, and inkscape is free - but unless you use win 8.1 [assuming you use windows at all] you may have trouble getting the touch sensitivity to work properly [due to problems between the program libraries inkscape uses and wacom drivers]
in any event it may not pick up the tablet until you set it in input devices
Cheers Handrawn. I cheated, there was no pen type tool, just normal lines. Basically instead of creating lines to match the drawing I created shapes and extracted one from the other.
Laguna, Paint is a bitmap (raster) tool that produces images using dots much the same way as a newspaper creates a photo of many multi-coloured dots. Xara is basically a vector drawing program that creates lines with a file saying draw a black coloured line with a width of 1.5 pixels from this point (x1,y1) to this point (x2,y2) etc etc etc. The two, raster & vector are entirely different beasts.
If your wanting something to use on a whiteboard application you really need to use a vector based program like Xara Designer or Inkscape. The SVG (scalable vector graphics) file you create from either of the two mentioned programs creates vector files which can be used in whiteboard programs.
I use VideoScribe which in my opinion has a quirky User Interface and is expensive for how often I use it. One further problem I have with it is that Xara generated SVG's come in at a distorted shape and I need to edit the SVG file in Notepad to remove all the Def tags to get it to import at the correct size (Never worked out whether this is a Xara export filter problem or a VideoScribe problem)
That is the animation effect I'm looking to implement, how was that done?
I have do have Inkscape and 8.1, it seems to work well, I'll have to plan around with it. I haven't used the Wacom or Inkscape much, so spending alot of time mapping the work area to inkscape and what pens/brushes work best.
Hi Laguna, I was just editing my post when you responded. I've finished editing it now so you may want to refresh your browser to see the edits.
By the way as well as agreeing with Gary re FREE clipart the majority of it is raster, not vector, so you're better off looking for free svg files.
How did you create the figure, using shapes?
I was going to use VideoScribe, but had the same reservations, I wasn't going to use it that often. Good to know about the distortions, Do you know if Inkscape is going to have the same distortion problem as Xara? I assume your animation was done with VideoScribe?
There is another program which is a one time purchase of $67, that I was going to try, VideoMakerfx, http://www.videomakerfx.com/. Doesn't seem as robust as VideoScribe, but haven't used it yet.
@egg - ah - I thought you might have done something like that [knowing you] - using a pen/shape tool to get those lines with a mouse like digging with a teaspoon
@laguna - agree with egg, if you are animating this way vector best; inkscape and videoscribe has come up before here somewhere but I can't find it...
Nice one Egg)
laguna 92651 here's another sketch line info tutorial used in Xara http://youtu.be/9zCbQOcgOrU
I use XARA for everything and I'm always practicing something new with tutorials. I know its not perfect but I made a simple swf with circles for practice which you can view here I'm sure one of the guys here can show you a simple form of line character as Egg has made that you can animate each segement of line to move as needed to create a whiteboard animation.
Egg I Challenge you to make that thing move now))...lol I'm now off to have a go myself.
ps laguna when you say redraw the object are you talking about each line being animated to draw to completed figure or object?
Are you asking if there are preset animated characters out there for free that you can animate by manipulating them into a new animation?
No not objects that are already animated, but some software that would load a svg file and create an animation, like VideoMakerFx mentioned above. Thanks for the additional tutorial. Egg still not sure how you created the drawing, can you point me somewhere, that might explain in more detail.
Sorry I can't do it from my original drawing. I deleted it. I'm probably overcomplicating thigs here as I was just trying to point out to Handrawn that you can look at an images as either something drawn with a line in some software or you can look at "this " line as a shape.Quote:
Egg still not sure how you created the drawing, can you point me somewhere, that might explain in more detail.
Hope I'm not confusing you:)
If you look at the whiteboard animation again you'll notice that the pencil draws the inside and outside of the image on the left as different strokes, whilst the one one the right only draws a single outline.
Had a look at VideoMakerFx and I can't say I'm impressed. It hints at whiteboarding but only shows a hand sliding an image on. Got bored & didn't watch the rest of the video :)
I'm aware of the methodology egg - 'bin doing the boolean for too long not to be;
it's a good way to do it in vector, but still tortoise, not hare :D
Greenie Question: Am I to understand that Xara is unable to load svg format?
Hello Veeness, sorry this thread has gone way off topic. Getting back on topic and in answer to your question Xara can import & export svg files. These display fine in all browsers. My particular problem was in importing a Xara created svg into another program. This caused issues, but shouldn't cause issues if you're wanting to create svg's to display within a browser.
Thanks for the help, I believe somewhere, I saw another video of VideoMakerFX and it was able to also draw an image, but not sure.
Can i help you ?
Hi shjnn3e
I'm looking to use line art in a whiteboard animation.
I'm looking for the easiest way to either draw line characters or find a site from which to download them in a svg format. It seems like I'm making some progress with Inkscape to draw the images. The images would be very basic in nature. Examples are posted earlier. Egg also indicated there were some distortion problems with Xara Designer and VideoStudio, I don't know if there are the same problems with Inkscape and VideoStudio.
Secondly I would like to find a desktop program to animate the figures, Egg has a reply here showing the animate effect, currently will probably use VideoStudio, which I haven't tried yet. The first problem with VideoStudio is that it is subscription based, which I'm not crazy about.
I'm really lost in this convo, but would like to understand it so as to follow it. You want to have an app that can create line figures (as you first showed) and then export as an SVG format, into an app that can then animate them - correct? The end effect being that a line figure character, will be seen moving or doing whatever as though on a whiteboard - yes? Or are you after an animation where a pencil draws things on said whiteboard, and it's the pencil that is the animation?
Now if I am right in the first part, why can Xara not deal at least with the first part? This comes from my 100% belief that Xara can do it all ..... no?
Looking forward to your replies :)
It is the first option that I am after, not being an artist I was initially looking for help on using Xara as a drawing tool, or suggestions on where I might get pre drawn figures. Secondly looking for recommendations on software that could animate the svg file. Currently what seems to be working best is Inkscape to draw the figures. I seem to be able to manipulate the drawing tools in Inkscape better than Xara but that could be because of practice. I will probably go back to Xara at some point and try again.
Thx Laguna for confirming that for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by laguna92651
In my opinion while inkscape has some features Xara does not, Xara is faster and easier to use, and, yes it could be lack of practice. There is mothing wrong with ising various software on one piece if you find that gives you the result you are looking for. Not everyone is as pig headed as I am trying to use Xara to do everything. I must admit to using FilterForge ocassionaly, but, so far I have used it only on part of my stained glass Drop Caps using a metalizer filter.
OK I had to try one too. I used a different image, color, and technique, than Egg did and for sure did not spend enough time on it, but for better or worse here you go.
Anyway if you don't mind having a ton of frames this technique appears to work.
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Nice one, Wizard!
Nice one Larry, lot of frames but neat and clean, I like that.
Stygg
Nice job, how did you go about creating the animation?
Thank you Boy,Stygg, and laguna.
@laguna 92651 it was simple, first I set the line color and no fill, drew a short line, copied the frame, then contiNued the line, over and over. until one section was complete. Copied frame and pressed escape to start on the next sectiion repeaded copying frames and extending line. Thiis procedure repeated over and over until drawing complete. That's why it had so many frames, but it probably should have had more.
Nice animated gif Larry. However I must admit to confusion on where this thread is supposed to be going. The OP quoted:
So this can be done in Xara and whiteboard software. My only experience is of whiteboard software is VideoScribe and I can't comment on other whiteboard software.Quote:
In the end I need svg files, doing a whiteboard animation.
There are several factors to take into account here. I've explained that Xara generated SVG's don't import correctly size-wise into VideoScribe unless the SVG file isn't first stripped of it's def tags in Notepad. Once this is done the file imports correctly. Don't know who's to blame for this, probably the svg format and it's many variants.
The other problem I have is with VideoScribe, a quirky and overpriced piece of software. It can only export animations as .mov, .flv and .wmv, all video formats otherwise as .png or .jpg sequence files which I assume can be used in Flash and other gif type animation programs. You really should be able to export as an animated svg at least.
Finally you can remove the drawing tool, hand, pencil, pen etc with "none" just to get an animation similar to a gif rendering but it's still a video format.
I probably won't renew my annual subscription to VideoScribe next yearas it's to expensive, the UI is rubbish and the lack of SVG animation.
I see your confusion Egg. I like yours bye the way. Reminds me of Fred Flintstone of whom I am a big fan. Sorry I kind of forgot about that part about svg files. Even so I wanted to do an animated line.